Lou Reed 'Never Doubted For A Second' Collaboration With Metallica Would Work

The New York Times conducted an interview with members of Metallica and Lou Reed about their musical collaboration, "Lulu".

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Ben Sisario of The New York Times recently conducted an interview with members of Metallica and legendary former Velvet Underground frontman Lou Reed about their musical collaboration, "Lulu". A couple of Blabbermouth.net excerpts from the chat follow below.

The New York Times: Did you ever think this was a crazy, oil-and-water combination, or did you feel that it was going to work?

Lou Reed: Never thought that. Always thought it was going to work. I sent the guys examples of the idea: "Here's this thing I want to do." I did a version of it for Bob Wilson at the Berliner Ensemble Theater. There's this idea I've had almost forever of something I wanted to do, but it required a certain ability I didn't have at the time for singing, and a certain kind of sophisticated rock muscle in back of it that wouldn't truncate it. So I sent it to Lars [Ulrich, Metallica drummer] and James [Hetfield, Metallica frontman] and said, "What do you think? Could we take a crack at this? Because in my head it works and I know we can do this." And they came right back saying, "Absolutely," and that was that. I never doubted for a second. No one would go to the trouble of failing.

Lars Ulrich: There was no question. This goes back two years to the awesome experience we had at Madison Square Garden. Lou turned around and in his goodbyes he said, "Let's make a record together, let's do this again." There was no question; this has been lingering since that night.

That was the origin: "Let's do a record?"

Lars Ulrich: Yeah. We had to finish our "Death Magnetic" endeavor around the globe a couple times, but this goes back to those awesome three days we had in New York in '09 at Madison Square Garden.

Lou Reed: We knew then. No missing it. Takes one to know one, that kind of rock. You need people who love rock. So studio musicians that's gone and 99 percent of the players these days don't really like rock. They like pop, but not rock. Not what I call rock. Not what they do.

You were looking for something, that rock muscle?

Lou Reed: I was looking for them, and I found them at the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame of all places. Who would have thought?

But you were writing these songs for a theater production, a totally non-rock band kind of situation.

Lou Reed: I had sent a couple of rock people over there [to Berlin] to try to move them along, but that wasn't going to happen. We were doing it with electronics, having electronics move them that way. There's no way over in Berlin they're going to have a drummer like him or a guitarist like him. That's not going to happen. They're going to have the generic God knows what. That's not going to happen. Not real rock 'n' roll people with real muscle. There they are. This is what I call a great thing. There are people who actually can do that. And everybody else don't want to name names I would say for 99.9 percent, it's not rock.

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    Pagan_Poetry
    ^he's got the right idea. I mean, I think they failed miserably, but I'd rather have that than some band releasing the same, stale, monotonous, annoying bullshit over and over again. How many times have experiments worked, right? I know they have failed many times, but you won't know if you succeed or not unless you try.
    everjump
    They maybe have failed at this collaboration,but I appreciate their effort at trying to come up with something new/fresh/different(or whatever else you would call it).
    slaveskinJACKET
    Like most others so far, I respect what they did. I might not like the final product, but I'd rather have them try something new and make what they want to make than to have the forced sort of try-hard approach to St. Anger and Death Magnetic.
    Supersonic1
    Never doubted for a second that it would work? You poor thing, you must be so disappointed.
    valnir230
    I swear they're trolling us. They have to be, there is no way that there is a disconnect this huge between their perceptions of that album and the fan's.
    DickHardwood
    This Lulu thing went reeeeally overboard with all these hateful comments.I mean,granted,it's NOT a good listen but every single Metallica fan here seems..emotional about it.I mean,tough shit,they wanted to do an art project,as a backing band no less.So?They said that they'll be releasing a new album soon which will be theirs,wait for that.As for Lou Reed..he can sing way better than Lulu.If he actually cut off some of the armpit-vulva lyrics and gave some vocal that could be at least in tune,people would have a completely different outtake on Lulu.
    Nor'Easterbass
    I think UG just likes seeing people bash Lulu in the comments...like it's their way of vicariously trashing the CD lol
    Nor'Easterbass
    slaveskinJACKET wrote: I'd rather have them try something new and make what they want to make than to have the forced sort of try-hard approach to St. Anger and Death Magnetic .
    How did Death Magnetic sound forced, again? 'Cause as a 'tallica fan of 10 yrs, I'm pretty sure it's the best thing they've come out with since the "...Justice"
    lVlaniac
    i liked Reed's imput in the album. It has a cool sound, but i didnt like Metallica's voice over it.
    washburn4metal
    People need to stop trashing on this thing, especially the metallica fans. THIS IS NOT A METALLICA album, it just happens to be the members from the band collaberating with lou on a completely different project. whether you like it or not, it's artistic expression. I've been a metallica fan since i was like 5 years old, and I myself from a completely biased standpoint, don't like the music between 'tallica and lou, but that's because it's not my thing. I'm sure there's others out there who do enjoy it. If you like it, say you do, and if you don't, say it, but leave it it that, seriously.
    slaveskinJACKET
    Nor'Easterbass wrote: slaveskinJACKET wrote: I'd rather have them try something new and make what they want to make than to have the forced sort of try-hard approach to St. Anger and Death Magnetic. How did Death Magnetic sound forced, again? 'Cause as a 'tallica fan of 10 yrs, I'm pretty sure it's the best thing they've come out with since the "...Justice"
    It just sounds insincere -- like it's not what they wanted to make. It's like they were trying to give the fans what they want, instead of just making the music they want to make and, as a result, it sounds forced and unauthentic. It is definitely a better listening experience than St. Anger. It's not really much of a better album, though. I wouldn't claim it to be better than Load or ReLoad, either. Those albums aren't bad, they're just not thrash in any way. And it's definitely not better than the Black Album (or, needless to say, anything before it). But even without thinking of it in terms of a comparison, it still isn't good. I don't think I would be very into Metallica, at all, if that was their only album.