Machine Head Frontman: 'I F--king Can't Stand Lou Reed'

In a new interview Machine Head's Robb Flynn was asked if he could ever see his band recording something totally different, like Metallica's "Lulu".

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According to Blabbermouth.net, in a brand new interview with Niclas Müller-Hansen of Sweden's Metalshrine, Machine Head guitarist/vocalist Robb Flynn was asked if he could ever see his band recording something totally different, like Metallica did with its collaborative album with Lou Reed, "Lulu".

"Well, the 'Lulu' thing sucks. It's f--king horrible." Flynn replied. When asked if he told the Metallica members - and Machine Head's frequent touring mates - his opinion of the "Lulu" CD, Flynn replied, "They didn't ask and if they would've asked, I would've told them how I felt. I've said it in public already, so they know, because those dudes know what people are saying about Metallica."

He continued, "I didn't even get it. If those guys need to do that stuff to get their ya-yas out, that's cool and I respect them, but eeehhh... was Lemmy not available? Was f--king Iggy Pop not available? [laughs] I think there are so many people that might've been a better choice. I don't know the dude [Lou Reed], but maybe he's the most charismatic guy in the world, I don't know.

"I f--king can't stand Lou Reed. I don't like his solo career and I don't like The Velvet Underground, so I don't know much about it other than 'Walk On The Wild Side'.

"Do I see myself [recording something completely different]? Yeah, I mean, we write plenty of songs that aren't necessarily what Machine Head would be. I love The Cure, so I write a bunch of mellow stuff that's like super-gothy and... gay. [laughs] But I think it's cool. You jam for a while and you come up with all kinds of shit. The thing that's great about Machine Head is that it's a pretty wide canvas we get to paint on. We're not afraid to try any idea, at least just to try it and see where it goes, because you never know where it's gonna go, so we're stupidly fearless in the sense that we'll just try an idea and most of the time if that idea isn't working within about a week or two we're pretty good at figuring it out. In the past we may not have figured it out. Lord knows we've got a couple of stinkers in our catalog, but I think overall, if you look at... we're seven albums deep and we have a huge career and we've managed to transcend and maintain a level and just slowly keep on growing. Never really even going down, which is amazing. I'm really proud of the fact that we've been able to kinda get a vision and keep it. We've never had a 'Lulu' and we've never even had like a Blaze Bayley moment [referring to Iron Maiden's short-lived collaboration with the British singer], you know what I mean? ([laughs] Where it's like, 'What is going on?' We've always been able to do it and if you look at the breadth of our music overall, it's pretty pioneering and pretty consistent and that's what I'm very proud of. I mean, there's a core Machine Head sound, but we never want a record to sound like the previous record and I think maybe sometime we almost ran too far away from what we had just done. I think we we're better at it now more than ever and just going, Yeah, let's try this way and see what's over here.' It may be the total wrong way, but we gotta try it. I gotta see what's over here and I gotta go this way just to see if it's right, because you know what, it might be the best way we've ever gone. You never know until you try it.

"To me, writing music is a lot like... and this is gonna be a very bizarre analogy, but I like to run a lot, so often when I wake up super hung-over, it's like, 'OK, you got to enjoy yourself, now you gotta f--king sweat it all out to make the balance, right?! So I'll wake up hung-over as shit in some f--king hotel or some f--king club or theater and I don't have any idea of where I am and I'll just go out and start running and it's like you're just lost for a while. You have no idea, everything's new and you have no bearings and eventually you go, 'Alright, am I gonna get back?' and then eventually you go, 'OK, I know the way back. I know where I'm going.' It's like you gotta go and get lost for a second before you figure out where you're going."

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    harvMM7x
    I don't think Blaze Bayley would be too happy is his official singing career with Iron Maiden was remembered as a "collaboration"
    Maiden95
    harvMM7x wrote: I don't think Blaze Bayley would be too happy is his official singing career with Iron Maiden was remembered as a "collaboration"
    I don't think Blaze is happy with anything involving Iron Maiden.
    mgxc24
    Mikethespud wrote: He must be illiterate if he doesn't like Lulu
    I think Mikethespud was being sarcastic. The comment is pretty funny so I don't know why all the downvotes.
    skylerjames13
    Lulu was bad imo. Anyone who liked it either has odd taste (and there's nothing wrong with that) or saying they liked it to just be different. Eight times out of ten it's probably the latter.
    BwareDWare94
    HavokStrife wrote: Well, I'm a big metal head, and I don't own a single Machine Head CD or mp3! So, my view of their band is not far off from their singer's view of Reed. And I don't think Metallica needs to pull their 'ya yas' out, Death Magnetic is better than anything I've ever heard by Machine Head.. And that damn album has its moments, the amount of shit it receives is ridiculous, even by 'big' musicians (aka Metalli-jealous, like Slayer, Megadeth, and now Machine Head), and I really don't know if it's because of Lou Reed, of cuz Metallica wrote St Anger, or what..
    LOL you serious? Death Magnetic doesn't even come close to being better than Burn My Eyes, Through the Ashes of Empires, The Blackening, or Unto the Locust. The fact of the matter is, Machine Head is probably the best mainstream metal act in existence. They're right on that barrier between "Most people know who this band is" and the underground. Are they probably a gateway band to better music? Yes, but they're undeniably better than the rest of mainstream metal.
    Krieger91
    He made it sound like Walk on the Wild side was The Velvet underground when actually it was Lou Reed solo.
    TheMetalcoreGuy
    mgxc24 wrote: Mikethespud wrote: He must be illiterate if he doesn't like Lulu I think Mikethespud was being sarcastic. The comment is pretty funny so I don't know why all the downvotes.
    he WAS being sarcastic, nobody remembers that article? really? Lou Reed called all of us illiterate because we didnt like "Lulu".
    fischerkidd
    HavokStrife wrote: Well, I'm a big metal head, and I don't own a single Machine Head CD or mp3! So, my view of their band is not far off from their singer's view of Reed. And I don't think Metallica needs to pull their 'ya yas' out, Death Magnetic is better than anything I've ever heard by Machine Head.. And that damn album has its moments, the amount of shit it receives is ridiculous, even by 'big' musicians (aka Metalli-jealous, like Slayer, Megadeth, and now Machine Head), and I really don't know if it's because of Lou Reed, of cuz Metallica wrote St Anger, or what..
    Have you heard anything from The Blackening at all??
    link no1
    HavokStrife wrote: (aka Metalli-jealous, like Slayer, Megadeth, and now Machine Head)
    Hmmm...I don't like alot of metal bands...I jelly?
    TheExterminator wrote: thegreasefire wrote: Entry level metal fan? You're funny... Please. Anyone who has gotten passed Metal Hammer and Terrorizer as sources of Metal realizes Machine Head is try-hard trash, and their only relevance lies in mainstream Metal, making them completely unimportant to Metal fans with half a brain and some experience in the real Metal world. I'd want them to break up so Vio-Lence can reform, but I'm afraid what Rob Flynn would do to tarnish that legacy.
    Dude, STFU. If somebody likes Machine Head or any other "try-hard trash" then leave them to it. Metal is metal and there is just way too many of you idiots around who think they have the right to say what is and isn't metal. If the world was filled with that opinion then metal would die very VERY quickly. Your head, please remove it from your anus. As Chuck Schuldiner once said, "metal is metal whether or not I like it."
    T00DEEPBLUE
    HavokStrife wrote: Well, I'm a big metal head, and I don't own a single Machine Head CD or mp3! So, my view of their band is not far off from their singer's view of Reed. And I don't think Metallica needs to pull their 'ya yas' out, Death Magnetic is better than anything I've ever heard by Machine Head.. And that damn album has its moments, the amount of shit it receives is ridiculous, even by 'big' musicians (aka Metalli-jealous, like Slayer, Megadeth, and now Machine Head), and I really don't know if it's because of Lou Reed, of cuz Metallica wrote St Anger, or what..
    I hate people who say "i'm a big metalhead" as if claiming such a thing has any credibility to the argument. Listen to the Blackening and the Locust and come back later.
    Blackmore991
    Every metal band has the same story about how they "make different kinds of songs" and "are a wide canvas on which one can put paint on", while making exactly the same music all over again. It's getting dull...
    SkepsisMetal
    HavokStrife wrote: Well, I'm a big metal head, and I don't own a single Machine Head CD or mp3! So, my view of their band is not far off from their singer's view of Reed. And I don't think Metallica needs to pull their 'ya yas' out, Death Magnetic is better than anything I've ever heard by Machine Head.. And that damn album has its moments, the amount of shit it receives is ridiculous, even by 'big' musicians (aka Metalli-jealous, like Slayer, Megadeth, and now Machine Head), and I really don't know if it's because of Lou Reed, of cuz Metallica wrote St Anger, or what..
    >Doesn't like album/artist >Automatically jealous Did you even read the article? Lulu just wasn't a good album. Both artists are great independently, but that doesn't mean you need them together.
    headstone05
    "I don't like his solo career and I don't like The Velvet Underground, so I don't know much about it other than 'Walk On The Wild Side" If you don't know much about it how can you make a fair judgement off of one song.
    PsiGuy60
    Meh, I respect 'Tallica and Lou Reed for trying something different. Don't like the results, though. That said, PARAGRAPHS. YOU'RE DOING THEM WRONG. Seriously, break up the text wall. I don't care if I have to scroll down a little longer as long as it makes the article more readable.
    joestrat5000
    "I f--king can't stand Lou Reed. I don't like his solo career and I don't like The Velvet Underground , so I don't know much about it other than 'Walk On The Wild Side' .
    Give a listen to The Velvet Underground and Nico...you might change your mind at least about the velvet underground
    Rick_Diculous
    If Patrick Carney of The Black Keys said this, there would be a substantially larger number of outrage posts. I like Lou Reed's old stuff and I don't know who Machine Head is.
    phantom_lord586
    Lou Reed was a decent artist back in the days gone by but he's just an out of time mumbling old man now
    jonathanb2
    zalant wrote: Krieger91 wrote: He made it sound like Walk on the Wild side was The Velvet underground when actually it was Lou Reed solo. Thus demonstrating his point that he doesn't know shit-all about Lou/Velvet.
    And doesn't care to... for good reason.
    shredibanez24
    I love how I got warned for "band bashing" on this article because of my harmless little Machine Head comment, when the sole focus of this article is band bashing. Hey mods why don't you warn Rob Flynn too while your at it?
    stonedhippos
    Mikethespud wrote: He must be illiterate if he doesn't like Lulu
    did no one else get the sarcasm?
    xicetraex
    HavokStrife wrote: Well, I'm a big metal head, and I don't own a single Machine Head CD or mp3! So, my view of their band is not far off from their singer's view of Reed. And I don't think Metallica needs to pull their 'ya yas' out, Death Magnetic is better than anything I've ever heard by Machine Head.. And that damn album has its moments, the amount of shit it receives is ridiculous, even by 'big' musicians (aka Metalli-jealous, like Slayer, Megadeth, and now Machine Head), and I really don't know if it's because of Lou Reed, of cuz Metallica wrote St Anger, or what..
    I'm not the biggest fan of Machinehead, and I'm one of those who enjoys Death Magnetic, but Machine Head's "The Blackening" is a much better album then DM. And to the people trying to defend Lou Reed: Stop. He is a waste of space and if he never existed Metallica wouldn't have made that piece of garbage Lulu. And I did listen to it in bits.. the album is a total cringe-fest.
    TheHydra
    if lou reed never existed then punk wouldn't exist in the same form as it does today. metallica wouldn't exist at all.
    nnb
    headstone05 wrote: "I don't like his solo career and I don't like The Velvet Underground, so I don't know much about it other than 'Walk On The Wild Side" If you don't know much about it how can you make a fair judgement off of one song.
    I was thinking the exact same thing.
    ToolCreedence
    Lou Reed wrote some awesome songs with the Velvet Underground and they were EXTREMELY influential. Most bands in the 60's weren't openly talking about their heroin habits. Machine Head is a pretty good band. The Blackening was unreal. Burn My Eyes and The More Things Change were good albums too. If you've never listened to any Lou Reed, check out White Light/White Heat. If you've never heard Machine Head, check out The Blackening.
    zalant
    Krieger91 wrote: He made it sound like Walk on the Wild side was The Velvet underground when actually it was Lou Reed solo.
    Thus demonstrating his point that he doesn't know shit-all about Lou/Velvet.
    thkoby
    I don't like his solo career and I don't like The Velvet Underground, so I don't know much about it other than 'Walk On The Wild Side'.
    Your argument is invalid.
    Deth2Emo
    I don't know much about it other than 'Walk On The Wild Side'.
    sounds like he has heard Lulu (which sucked) and then one lou reed song and he judges... **** that dude. lou reed shits on all his music
    ne14t
    headstone05 wrote: "I don't like his solo career and I don't like The Velvet Underground, so I don't know much about it other than 'Walk On The Wild Side" If you don't know much about it how can you make a fair judgement off of one song.
    Maybe he has listened and didn't like anything else, I know I share the same feelings about Lou Reed, unfortunately he is just one of those artists that do not tickle my musical interest.
    tomc2
    I'd rather hear Lou Reed than Machine Head. I don't understand why everyone thinks theyre so great.
    animemetalhead
    Is it just considered cool to rag on Lou Reed now? The man just wanted to try a metal album and this is how you treat him? I mean, tell him metal's not his thing. Maybe he needs to try a country album or something. But everyone basically saying he's a waste of space must be making him depressed. I mean, just stop! I mean, even Metallica didn't back him, and they wrote the freakin' music! I mean, especially if you didn't listen to the album, just shut the hell up already!
    AsOneIStand
    Wow... A man is asked a question and is expected to give his honest opinion and receives backlash from people on forums who've never achieved the same things. Sounds like jealousy. Machine Head>Lou Reed. Personally, I'd rather hear an artist's honest opinion about what he has heard of the artist he is criticizing. Like it's a bad thing to not like an artist. I see a bunch of butthurt Lou Reed fans in here.
    nailsarecruel
    We've always been able to do it and if you look at the breadth of our music overall, it's pretty pioneering and pretty consistent and that's what I'm very proud of.
    Supercharger, The Burning Red and Rob Flynn ( and his yeeeee boyyyyy vernacular)interview transcripts from those album eras. That's all.
    Sparda93
    Let`s say that Reed shouldn`t dabble in Metal affairs, and Robb should just hush if he doesn`t know what the hell he`s talking about.
    LesPaulGuy77
    Maybe he doesn't like Lou Reed, but that doesn't mean he has to be a disrespectful to him.
    kratos379
    I like Rob Flynn and all, but this was a stupid statement to make. He doesn't even know much about Lou Reed and bashed him. Still I'm excited for a next album from these guys. Either way Metallica did the right thing in trying something new. It worked out terribly, but at least they're still trying to be creative. Lulu sounds nothing like anything I've ever heard. They just needed to work on better execution of the idea. They're going to go back to being Metallica on the next album and hopefully they'll still try something new. I'd rather have a band innovate and do poorly, then become stale.
    HollowPoint423
    All I can says is LOL at "extreme"inator and someone is trapped in the 80's, how sad. It's 2012 guy, let it go and instead of trying to sound intellectual, how about you catch up with the rest of us and appreciate music as a whole. Hence why folks say "metal is metal". Stop trying to label stuff, it only makes you like a closed minded piece of crap.
    thegreasefire
    TheExterminator wrote: Ah Rob Flynn. The only reason he was in Vio-Lence was because Thrash was hot at the time. The only reason he formed Machine Head was so he could continue following every wannabe Metal trend and remain relevant in the eyes of every mainstream and entry-level Metal fan. He's done Groove Metal, he's done Nu-Metal, he's done Metalcore, I'm surprised Machine Head hasn't done a Deathcore album yet. All in all, they're a trendy mallcore band for posers. That being said, Lou Reed's effort on Lulu was about as horrible as Metallica's was. It has got to be his worst vocal performance to date, but it's definitely not a representation of his entire career at all. You could say worse for Metallica, because their input sounded like St Anger rejects mixed with mediocre Sludge. It's on par with pretty much every piece of trash that Metallica has spit out for the past 20 years. You wouldn't see Rob Flynn talking shit about Metallica, though, that may dig into his fame and commercial success! Woe is the day this hack ever becomes a Metal icon or legend. That would be the day Metal dies.
    Entry level metal fan? You're funny...
    razor888razor88
    I did not like it either it was like someone reading at a poetry club with Metallica playing in the back round.
    Dostoyevskian
    "I don't know the dude [Lou Reed], but maybe he's the most charismatic guy in the world, I don't know. "I f--king can't stand Lou Reed."
    That's not very nice. The guy's just making the music he wants to make. It's cool if you don't like his stuff, but hating the guy you admittedly know nothing about is a little too harsh. Yes, he collaborated in the making of an almost universally hated album with a band that most people at least have a soft spot for, but he didn't force Metallica to record Lulu with him.
    VertigodowN
    Maybe if musicians in big metal bands werent such arrogant ignoramuses their fans wouldnt be so closed minded
    Deth2Emo
    metal machine music was more metal than anything machinehead has ever done.
    andyscoot
    I would like to see a Robb Flynn interview where he dosen't say "****". Mr Flynn, we get it, you're cool and badass and all those other things, but expand your vocabulary.
    ljpfahey
    He's wrong about Lou Reed. He deserves more respect than this. If you don't even know his music then don't shit on him. For a long while I was of a similar opinion to everyone else about Lulu - I respect them for it, but I'm not into it. Then a month or two ago I listened to the album again, for some reason from a different perspective, and now I love it! I stopped thinking of it as a Metallica album. Because it's not. To me it's more like 'Lou Reed accompanied by Metallica'. When I thought of it like that it made a lot more sense to me and I ****ing love it.
    priestfan76
    tomc2 wrote: I'd rather hear Lou Reed than Machine Head. I don't understand why everyone thinks theyre so great.
    cuz they are