Mark Hoppus 'Tells All' About Blink-182, Plus 44

The former bassist of Blink 182 discusses the band's break up, as well as the recent additions and the departure of Carol Heller.

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Blink-182 fansite b182.com recently spoke with Plus 44's Mark Hoppus.

Hoppus, also the former bassist of Blink 182, promised the site a "Tell All" interview, and discusses the break up of Blink-182, as well as the recent additions of Craig Fairbaugh (ex-Lars Frederickson And The Bastards/Transplants/The Forgotten) and Shane Gallagher (the Nervous Return) and the departure of Carol Heller, PunkNews.org.

In regards to Blink 182, Mark explained:

"Later on, Tom started saying he DIDN'T want to tour, that he was burned out and wanted to stay home. He wanted to cancel the tour. [...] We understood that Tom wanted to be with his family. We all did. We all love our families and want to be with them. At the same time, this is our job. We are so lucky to get to do what we do the way we do. We love our work and want to be out there doing it, and it was being taken away from us. We had no say in it. blink-182 has been a democracy since day one, and toward the end there it wasn't. it was all about one person. it felt ugly. it really did.

Tom was deciding when we would tour, how we would tour, when we would have time off, when we would record, and how we could record. One person was dictating everything. [...] Tom didn't even call to quit the band. He had his manager do it for him."

And as far as the Plus 44, while it was originally promised as a largely electronic act, the band began writing as a "rock band" with electronic elements which, may lead some to draw some parallels to Blink 182, which took a similar approach.

Mark even talks about his former bandmate's album, We Don't Need to Whisper:

"The rest of the songs on the album seemed long and repetitious. It seemed like there were some good ideas in there wanting to come out, but it never got to where it needed to go. For me, I have always loved the honest simplicity and beauty in Tom's music and lyrics. This new album seemed forced and self-important."

For the entirety of the very comprehensive interview, go over here.

103 comments sorted by best / new / date

    Tomamo5
    I totally agree with Mark...it is Toms fault for blink 182s break up and Ive lost my respect for him...feels kinda tainted to listen to AVA now. I agree with Mark about the album too, the Adventure was great and I expected something really really good but the rest were way too repetitive and...=[ I feel sad.
    Biohazard
    i bet the original blink 182 drummer (pre-enema) is laughing at all of them right now.
    c_strummer88
    I abosluted loved blink-182. They were just an escape from other bands because most of the time they weren't trynig to save the planet from dying, it was just fun pop punk music. They got serious and then Tom decided to quit. To be honest, I was always a fan of Marks songs on blink albums not Toms. Tom whines. Thats a different conversation. I think its a pathetic and selfish way to end a band with his best friends. I read the whole article, Mark has done the right thing in not carrying blink on without Tom. I think Plus-44s gonna outsell AvA by a mile.
    7_seven_7
    im not saying i hate AVA. like you dxseven7, there are a few good songs on ava's album. but i hope to hear some stuff like the song 'not now' on blink's greatest hits album. i hope either tom or mark does that. because that is a great song and to me shows where blink would hav gone had they not broken up. and if you go to angels and airwaves myspace. tom clearly states there that he loves mark and tom but its time for something new. which you would probly all agree that AVA is very new for tom. but im still disappointed that the song 'the war' is basically the only song on that album where the guitars are using distortion and not delay. i hope AVA do some faster songs in the future. as for plus 44, i cant wait for their album in october. i love mark and travis so it should be awesome.
    dxseven7
    im a huge blink fan. i love mark, tom and travis equally. they all made blink 182 who they are. if mark and travis carried on blink182 without tom people would be like "this is weird and doesnt sound like blink". marks story is pretty convincing and makes tom look pretty awful. But he was probably going threw a hard time or something. People should cut him a little slack. Tom just wanted something different. Thats understandable cos blink were together for 13 odd years. Angels & Airwaves arnt as bad as everyone is saying. I love some of there songs and its seeing a new side of tom. which is fun and intresting. Yes some of there songs arnt the best. I have some songs on the album im not fond of but its still a good album. I cant wait though for plus44's album. There keeping things rock/punkish which is my favourite type of music. AVA would be better if it was less U2 sounding and abit more last-blink-album mixed in there. Dont get me wrong i do like the album but would like it more if it was abit more rock with cool riffs you know. well lets just wish the best to all three of them. If you dont like AVA, then just dont listen to them. Dont say there crap just cos you have a sudden grudge against tom or its not your genre of music. keep an open mind. cool?
    stumaster18
    well. the story finally comes out. so Tom thought he was too good for blink-182...and look what he's doing now. he possibly made the WORST album in history, and it's pure emo. everything he made fun of in the past, he is now. I have always liked Mark more, and this just clinches it for me. Plus-44 will be a much better band, and their CD is going to kickass. I think they should have kept the name blink-182, and just replace Tom. mark can write better songs and lyrics anyways. just need a new guitar player that has an annoying high-pitched voice like Tom. Not too hard to find.
    7_seven_7
    AVA is basically blink 182 without mark and travis (obviously). tom is shit by himself. i dont know why he thinks hes 'it'. i feel sorry for mark. and i just read that travis is having trouble with his wife too. Just about all my favourite blink songs are the ones that mark sings [adam's song, going away to college]. mark was mostly the humour in the band but he did hav a way deeper side. they all did. i've only heard one plus 44 song and it rocks. its mellow.. ish but not so much as AVA.. i dont mind AVA but i dont like them as much as blink though.
    vinesman2
    yeah you can tell that tom became more full of himself as the band got older. in the first like 5 blink videos mark sung and by the last cd tom was singing almost the whole time. i liked tom but i think its his fault blink broke up and it sucks.
    muzz666
    Mark Hoppus wrote: "The rest of the songs on the album seemed long and repetitious. It seemed like there were some good ideas in there wanting to come out, but it never got to where it needed to go. For me, I have always loved the honest simplicity and beauty in Tom?s music and lyrics. This new album seemed forced and self-important."
    I totally agree with him there.
    minimullen
    I dont Care what all of them are doing right now, and i hate to say it but Toms music was a gift from god...But so was Marks and Travis's...Who cares if Tom doesnt play crazy guitar, Its sill sick guitar and thats all that matters And he sounds bad live but ONLY in Ava because even tho his voice isnt the best with Blink it still fit the music VERY well and gave that punk rock vibe to it...Travis is the Best drummer ever...And mark is an incredible musician altogether The 3 of them unite it becomes the best band EVER...Ive listened to the blink record AT LEAST once a week all the way thru since it came out and its the best music ive ever heard. PLEASE COME BACK BLINK, I KNOW U ALL WANT TO BE TOGETHER DEEP DOWN SO MAKE IT HAPPEN!!!
    pfricky98
    it is about time blink-182 broke up. they really needed to stop trying to play music.
    petetheelite
    [quote]Dattt wrote: jseverson06 : mark is a tool.... his side of the story is very exhagerated and untrue. he was just jelous because of box car (which he had no right to be) and formed a studid rivalry in his head with tom which escaladed over the years. you can tell mark is controlling by how he critiqued the AVA album, saying shit about not reaching its own potential or whatever. if he has the balls to question the creative potential of a group of other musicians just imagine what he put blink through on their albums. just because mark doesnt like the new sound of AVA its immediately wrong. now dont get me wrong, im not sticking up for AVA because I dont like them, im just saying hoppus is ****ing clownshoes and needs to shut up. plus 44 also blows major ass. how would u know plus 44 blows?? they released 1 song :S and originally box car was going to just be delonge. but travis barker joined cuz tom didnt want to hire a studio drummmer. tom is a tosser. he completely changed his image to suit the trends. atleast mark has the dignity to stay true to himself. toms a egotistical moron.
    Weybl Himself
    It's amazing how many people have jumped to accept Mark's version of events as gospel. There is obviously a lot of bitterness still there so you can't be sure of everything he says.
    fox69
    TiDyCaTT900 : I like how ive never heard any of you guys say that Angels and airwaves songs were long and repetitive until Mark said it. as for Tom I love the guy but...I kinda belive Mark which sucks for me cuz Ima huge Tom fan.
    actually lots have ppl hav said this way b4 mark, but yah. **** i new it, on there last studia CD i figured tom was takin control with his whiny singin, 2 bad cuz blink rocked R.I.P. blink-182
    Pundog
    Mark is definitely right, in an interview Tom called the AVA the greatest album in the past 20 years or something allong those lines. Someone should tell him that AVA was founded 20 years ago in Ireland by a couple of guys named Bono and the Edge, and then tell him to pull his head out of his ass. The first time I heard "The Adventure" on the radio I said, "what the hell did Bono do to his voice?"
    dc_4twenty7
    Schizopathic wrote: This seems like the same thing with System Of A Down, one dude starting getting to controlling(Daron), and then it just fell apart. let this be a lesson to all. To make a successful band last a long time, you can't get a big head. There's no I in band. but there is no one "guitar", which seems to be the instrument of choice of those who like to take over(daron, tom), they're giving us guitarist a bad name!
    Dude, System is not breaking up. Daron's already stated that if they were, they wouldn't even waste their time with one last Ozzfest. The fact is that after 13 years or so of playing together (sound familiar?), the individuals involved usually need to experiment with side projects in order to remain creative inside the constructs of the original band. The fact that Tom decided to go head-on with AVA instead of just experimenting is what'll be logged as the nail in Blink's coffin, whereas Scars On Broadway and whatever else the SoaD guys do will help keep the band alive. But I digress. Once again, Tom Deschlonge is a waste, and it takes a real blind spot to defend him. Period. -dc
    screen21
    Fuck Tom!!! He totally destroyed it, I read this thing yesterday, ever since I hear Tom's voice I feel deception towards him! He screwed everything up. AVA wont work for him. I hope he suffers the consequences and regrets his decisions. I've always admired Tom but since the break up date he became a total loser. from my pov, he'll regain his position as a good guy when he comes back with blink. AVA is kinda good but it's pretty bad when u notice these issues. +44 will be much better!
    myself101
    It seems that fame went to toms head resulting in him being an arogrant person.....
    RoCkEr Dude 182
    blink 182 was a preety swett ang freakin hilarious band. marks the coolest guy from bink and is totaly right. yeah, and ava sux so ****ing bad. i wanted to shoot tom when he said it was gona be the next best album
    wounded625
    Blink-182 has influenced me a lot, and Tom used to be one of my favorite musicians, but ever since i read this on b182, I lost a lot of respect for him. He now is an ass. He couldn't even quit in person, what a pussy. The untitled album was great in my opinion because it was a lot more deeper, but Tom sung way too much and took too much control. AVA is awesome in my opinion, but it could be better. +44 though, is a GREAT band and I support them all the way. What I want most though is for Tom to come to his sensces and relies hes a dumb ass right now, mabey then Tom Mark and Travis can forgive each other and start Blink again, but that obviously isn't going to happen.
    Schizopathic
    This seems like the same thing with System Of A Down, one dude starting getting to controlling(Daron), and then it just fell apart. let this be a lesson to all. To make a successful band last a long time, you can't get a big head. There's no I in band. but there is no one "guitar", which seems to be the instrument of choice of those who like to take over(daron, tom), they're giving us guitarist a bad name!
    Fender4evr
    u know, plus 44 rocks, AVA rocks, and so does blink. and all yall r sittin here dissin the members of the best band ever. bands break up. ive been in a million bands, getting fired, leaving, getting drunk and leaving and getting fired at the same time. shit happens. and i think we should respect the memory of blink instead of criticizing tom and mark.
    Ellie<3blink
    i love blink 182 i always have i always probably will.i listen to there albums everyday,but sometimes i do want them to get back together. Their own seperate bands aren't as good but i do like plus 44 better than AVA. Yeah tom did **** it up for mark and travis but why does he have time for another band and not have time for the ones hes been with for 13 years ? He needs to put things right then they can get back together and stop being so selfish.
    RockChloeRoll
    I like Blink 182. Even if I do find out that one of their members, (Tom) is totaly lame and stupid, I'll still always like the music. Lone live Mark and Travis! Tom, you're a great singer, but put things right man.
    RockChloeRoll
    You're always gonna hear two sides of the story. I choose Mark's. 'Cause he's the best in Blink! =D xox
    walkingreject
    you know, i never got a chance to see blink play, and now i never will. the closest i'll ever get is pus 44.
    checkers4
    I love BLink! But Tom YOU FUCKED IT UP! BLINK IS MY LIFE! THATS ALL I PLAY! I LOVE GUITAR! AND I LOVED BLINK! THANKS A LOT! And Angles and airwaves SUCK! And to think.... you were my idol!
    o18241
    u guys r all hatin on tom if u guys r true blink fans u all will respect both bands(ava +44)tom quit cuz he finally grew up he is more mature now so **** all of u,bcuz if it wasnt for tom there wouldnt b any blink 182
    zachH
    gertz55 wrote:nice! Ok, so it would appear that we have a room full off Tom Delonge haters. Look, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, so all I want to do is state mine. Tom is a guitarist that lived the life that all of us dream off. Like so many of us, he was just some kid that loved his guitar and tried to start a little band. And look, he reached the top. Still today he has millions of fans all across the world(I'm from South Africa). Yeah, maybe he was a little over his head thinking that AVA would change the world, but he started AVA because his heart told him that that was the right thing to do. A lot of you say that Tom is a gay fag, but keep in mind that he was MAN enough to follow his heart, even if it meant destroying his reputation and losing fans across the world(and it happened just like that). He did what he thought he had to! He followed his heart. And I respect him for that. I honestly don't think there is anything wrong with AVA, its sure better than the music my band makes in my garage, sure its not blink, but it was never meant to be blink! And for those of you that don't like blink, the band blink 182 did more for rock music than I think most of you realize! Blink had an enormous share in making rock music what it is today! Most of you probably wouldn't be playing guitar today if it wasn't for blink making rock as huge as it is today. A lot of our favorite bands today possibly started playing music because of blink! Yeah it sucks what happened, it sucks that there is no more blink, but the truth is that blink will live on, they will live on in the music they left us with! A tribute to blink182, an awesome band!
    smashin_pumpkin
    i admit blink-182's guitar work was nothin special, but the general simplicity of it was what made their sound so great. As for tom delong... wel i forsaw ava before they 'burst' on to the 'prog rock' music scene with 'the greatest album in years' u just need to listen to the self-titled album it was a sign of shit things to come.. i mean the crappy outro on violence what the hell was that about? u cld just see that tom delong was walking around with a massive emo sticker on his face during the entire album recordin
    zachH
    There was no reason for blink to break. they were one of the greatest punk bands out there. even today i'm still listening to them. blink is totally better than angels and airwaves and boxcar racer combined!
    MomisDeRavus
    Ahh, I've always liked Mark most outta them all, he's funnier, more mature and just the all-round best. Tom probably doesnt have a clue what hes done yet, but I'm pretty sure it'll smash him in the face soon
    gertz55
    Sorry, didnt mean to repeat that message so many times! It didnt want to send and then suddenly all of them went through, lol
    gertz55
    Ok, so it would appear that we have a room full off Tom Delonge haters. Look, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, so all I want to do is state mine. Tom is a guitarist that lived the life that all of us dream off. Like so many of us, he was just some kid that loved his guitar and tried to start a little band. And look, he reached the top. Still today he has millions of fans all across the world(I'm from South Africa). Yeah, maybe he was a little over his head thinking that AVA would change the world, but he started AVA because his heart told him that that was the right thing to do. A lot of you say that Tom is a gay fag, but keep in mind that he was MAN enough to follow his heart, even if it meant destroying his reputation and losing fans across the world(and it happened just like that). He did what he thought he had to! He followed his heart. And I respect him for that. I honestly don't think there is anything wrong with AVA, its sure better than the music my band makes in my garage, sure its not blink, but it was never meant to be blink! And for those of you that don't like blink, the band blink 182 did more for rock music than I think most of you realize! Blink had an enormous share in making rock music what it is today! Most of you probably wouldn't be playing guitar today if it wasn't for blink making rock as huge as it is today. A lot of our favorite bands today possibly started playing music because of blink! Yeah it sucks what happened, it sucks that there is no more blink, but the truth is that blink will live on, they will live on in the music they left us with! A tribute to blink182, an awesome band!
    gertz55
    Try this one rather Ok, so it would appear that we have a room full off Tom Delonge haters. Look, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, so all I want to do is state mine. Tom is a guitarist that lived the life that all of us dream off. Like so many of us, he was just some kid that loved his guitar and tried to start a little band. And look, he reached the top. Still today he has millions of fans all across the world(I'm from South Africa). Yeah, maybe he was a little over his head thinking that AVA would change the world, but he started AVA because his heart told him that that was the right thing to do. A lot of you say that Tom is a gay fag, but keep in mind that he was MAN enough to follow his heart, even if it meant destroying his reputation and losing fans across the world(and it happened just like that). He did what he thought he had to! He followed his heart. And I respect him for that. I honestly don't think there is anything wrong with AVA, its sure better than the music my band makes in my garage, sure its not blink, but it was never meant to be blink! And for those of you that don't like blink, the band blink 182 did more for rock music than I think most of you realize! Blink had an enormous share in making rock music what it is today! Most of you probably wouldn't be playing guitar today if it wasn't for blink making rock as huge as it is today. A lot of our favorite bands today possibly started playing music because of blink! Yeah it sucks what happened, it sucks that there is no more blink, but the truth is that blink will live on, they will live on in the music they left us with! A tribute to blink182, an awesome band!
    gertz55
    Try this one rather Ok, so it would appear that we have a room full off Tom Delonge haters. Look, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, so all I want to do is state mine. Tom is a guitarist that lived the life that all of us dream off. Like so many of us, he was just some kid that loved his guitar and tried to start a little band. And look, he reached the top. Still today he has millions of fans all across the world(I'm from South Africa). Yeah, maybe he was a little over his head thinking that AVA would change the world, but he started AVA because his heart told him that that was the right thing to do. A lot of you say that Tom is a gay fag, but keep in mind that he was MAN enough to follow his heart, even if it meant destroying his reputation and losing fans across the world(and it happened just like that). He did what he thought he had to! He followed his heart. And I respect him for that. I honestly don't think there is anything wrong with AVA, its sure better than the music my band makes in my garage, sure its not blink, but it was never meant to be blink! And for those of you that don't like blink, the band blink 182 did more for rock music than I think most of you realize! Blink had an enormous share in making rock music what it is today! Most of you probably wouldn't be playing guitar today if it wasn't for blink making rock as huge as it is today. A lot of our favorite bands today possibly started playing music because of blink! Yeah it sucks what happened, it sucks that there is no more blink, but the truth is that blink will live on, they will live on in the music they left us with! A tribute to blink182, an awesome band!
    gertz55
    Ok, so it would appear that we have a room full off Tom Delonge haters. Look, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, so all I want to do is state mine. Tom is a guitarist that lived the life that all of us dream off. Like so many of us, he was just some kid that loved his guitar and tried to start a little band. And look, he reached the top. Still today he has millions of fans all across the world(I’m from South Africa). Yeah, maybe he was a little over his head thinking that AVA would change the world, but he started AVA because his heart told him that that was the right thing to do. A lot of you say that Tom is a gay fag, but keep in mind that he was MAN enough to follow his heart, even if it meant destroying his reputation and losing fans across the world(and it happened just like that). He did what he thought he had to! He followed his heart. And I respect him for that. I honestly don’t think there is anything wrong with AVA, its sure better than the music my band makes in my garage, sure its not blink, but it was never meant to be blink! And for those of you that don’t like blink, the band blink 182 did more for rock music than I think most of you realize! Blink had an enormous share in making rock music what it is today! Most of you probably wouldn’t be playing guitar today if it wasn’t for blink making rock as huge as it is today. A lot of our favorite bands today possibly started playing music because of blink! Yeah it sucks what happened, it sucks that there is no more blink, but the truth is that blink will live on, they will live on in the music they left us with! A tribute to blink182, an awesome band!
    CaptainPat
    I wish you guys would have never broken up. You should get back together even if it just for just one tour and do a show here in Plattsburgh NY.I think its unfair only big major cities ever get celebs. Us small town people wanna see celebs too without having to travel to either NYC or California. It would rock. My dream of seeing Blink in concert willl never bne fullfilled...
    UnitedMisery
    i agree with all of you dudes! AVA sucks! The Adventure actually put me to sleep! Mark, is there any chance that blink 182 would get back again?