Trivium On 'Lulu': 'If Anyone Thinks They Understand It, They're On Drugs'

Niclas Muller-Hansen of Sweden's Metalshrine conducted an interview with bassist Paolo Gregoletto of Florida metallers Trivium.

Trivium On 'Lulu': 'If Anyone Thinks They Understand It, They're On Drugs'
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According to Blabbermouth.net, Niclas Mller-Hansen of Sweden's Metalshrine conducted an interview with bassist Paolo Gregoletto of Florida metallers Trivium when the band played in Stockholm on November 18, 2011 with In Flames. An excerpt from the chat follows below. Metalshrine: Have you listened to [the Metallica and Lou Reed collaboration] "Lulu"? Paolo Gregoletto: Oh yeah! (laughs) What do you think of it? Eehhh, it's really weird. Do you understand it? If anyone thinks they understand it, they're on drugs. It's a weird album, man! We listened to it... When the hell did we listen to it? Oh, on the last tour. We did a show in Tampa and a couple of us drove back to Orlando for the night because we were playing there the next day and we listened to most of it. We were just like, "What the f--k is this?" It's so weird. I saw some videos of it live and I don't know, man. If those dudes are happy doing that, then more power to them, because they're still my favorite band, but it's really weird and I think everyone thinks that, too. Probably. It's pretty funny that Metallica fans in general, hate it, but magazines like Mojo and Uncut are giving it rave reviews, like 4 out of 5 and so on. I feel that that's why they were making this album, whether they say it is or not, but I feel it's kind of to make those kind of magazines... I guess, what's the right word? Like metal's kind of the outcast and everyone looks at us like a second-class genre and it's like trying to make those people respect you more. I couldn't give a shit if those magazines would review our albums ever! I would never do an album like that to make them like us. It's so weird. I can understand why they're doing it. They've got millions of dollars and they can do whatever they want and they need something to get them out of bed. I've got a good thing to counter that. So does Iron Maiden. They've got millions of dollars and when they get out of bed, they play metal and they still pack arenas and they seem like they're having a good time. (laughs) I can understand that they do that and as an artist myself, I definitely don't wanna be constrained to one thing, but I also don't wanna make a non-metal record with Trivium. We've established that we're a metal band and our fans love us for that But Metallica even said that "a lot of people aren't gonna get it, but we wanna do it". and you gotta respect that they do what they wanna do. And hey, they're playing the "Black Album" this summer! Every time they do [something questionable], they do something cool. They made "St. Anger" and then they did "Death Magnetic" and it was like, "Alright, they've still got it". They do some interesting things sometimes. They're one of the best live bands by far. Read the entire interview from Metalshrine.

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    GenerationKILL
    He can't compare Iron Maiden to Metallica. For one thing, and he should know this, Metallica have always pushed the boundaries with the genre they play and not given a **** what other people have thought. Thats why Metallica rules. A brief history of Metallica not giving a f*ck: -Released "fade to black" and everyone hated them for making " a ballad" -Did a video for "One" and everyone hated them because they were "too underground to do that." -Released "the black album" and everyone hated them for making a "popular metal album." -Released "load and reload" and everyone hated them because they wanted to try something else -Released "S&M" and everyone hated them because "a metal band shouldn't do that" -Sued Napster on the principle that "nobody is in charge of how their music gets distributed other than the artist" (which everyone twisted around and missed the point on..) and everyone hated them. -Released "st. Anger" as a therapeutic experiment and everyone hated them (and missed the point, again...) -Released "Death Magnetic" and everyone hated it (because it was too loud) -Released "Lulu" with Lou Reed, and everyone hated it. Point in case: Metallica does what they want, and aren't sell outs because you're still hating them for NOT doing what you expect or want them to do. So quit whining.
    MonsterJunkie
    I've got a good thing to counter that. So does Iron Maiden. They've got millions of dollars and when they get out of bed I'll have you know Iron Maiden have millions of pounds
    ready2breakdown
    huntercrunch wrote: Give Metallica a break, guys. At least they brought something new to the table.
    They didn't just bring something new to the table, they actually brought the table themselves.
    CronoMagus
    Niiko wrote: LOL who? Sorry dude, but you're not the be all and end all of music. You don't have to be on drugs to appreciate the album, it helps but you don't have to be. And how about you guys actually put out a decent album that I can actually sit and listen through it's entirety like I did with Lulu 4 times?
    You sat through Lulu FOUR TIMES?! JESUS MAN!
    GazzaCee
    Megadethfan245 wrote: I thought that all of the news about Lulu had fallen off the table, must we repair the legs of the table and have it live on? Please no.
    I see what you did there.
    shredder3386
    Niiko wrote: LOL who? Sorry dude, but you're not the be all and end all of music. You don't have to be on drugs to appreciate the album, it helps but you don't have to be. And how about you guys actually put out a decent album that I can actually sit and listen through it's entirety like I did with Lulu 4 times?
    Yeah because whether or not Trivium puts out an album that you, random UG forum guy, likes means this isn't true? Good call. Also +1 to what Paolo said about Maiden.
    jordo246
    I think it was more hated because Metallica havnt actually returned to their true form yet,death magnetic was a step in that direction but maybe if they did an album that was really good and then this it might not have had so much hate.
    AnnihilationUK
    I couldn't give a shit if those magazines would review our albums ever! I would never do an album like that to make them like us. It's so weird.
    Yet they made a lot of the songs on the new album "radio friendly" and had a big thing about requesting it to radio stations so other people, NOT into metal, would hear it.... Also, this is a shit way of disguising another ****ing lulu post. Quit it! It sucked, and we should move on with our lives!
    RequiemofDemons
    Haters gonna hate...but regardless of Paolo's band background he's got a point....this album was ****ing weird and the vast majority hated it :/ strange move on Metallica's part..I've always been a firm believer of "Sticking to your guns" but I guess when you've been playing for so long you get bored...but maybe jam it in your spare time instead of releasing it to the world >
    thenextkirk92
    I definitely don't wanna be constrained to one thing, but I also don't wanna make a non-metal record with Trivium
    Lol, In Waves?
    guitgrinder
    Haha, even mini-MEtallica thinks Metallica sold out. Fuckin lol.
    And how about you guys actually put out a decent album that I can actually sit and listen through it's entirety like I did with Lulu 4 times?
    Wow. 4 times? What a stud! XD I never even bothered listening to anything beyond the 1 minute clips for most of the songs, because the truth is, I don't need to. I don't even really like Trivium but it's funny that everyone's so like... almost ashamed of this album. At this point, no one's really mad-dogging the album, it's more like people are embarrased to look in it's direction, as if it's a homeless vet w/ no legs panhandling. A few will stop & spend a small time w/ it, but most just avert their eyes & keep walking.
    jacobdubya
    Jesus Christ, UG is really just beating the hell out of that poor dead horse. I personally kind of liked Lulu. Yeah, it was weird and different, but that's what I like about it. The same old shit gets boring after a while, and Lou Reed and Metallica had the balls enough to do it and not care what people though. And I'm glad they've stood their ground on it instead of caving in to their finicky fans who don't want them to do anything but metal. Lou Reed especially, who is just underground enough to have gotten away with this album if he were to have done it by himself or a lesser known metal band, but has really attracted the ire of Metallica fans. And I highly doubt they did an album solely to please certain magazines. Also, I guess it wasn't enough for some metal publications that die hard metal fans hated it, now they're trying to get a rise out of other metal musicians about the album. I don't really know much about Trivium or this guy, so I'm trying to reserve judgment, but considering he's the singer of a metal band that were apparently influenced by Metallica, of course he's not going to like it much. I'm just baffled by how he keeps emphasizing how weird it is and everyone else thinking that too, then he implies that they did it to make people like them. So do people think it's weird or do people like it? Then they pretty much offer the metal rallying cry of "We don't make music to please people, we don't care if people like us!" Right after judging Metallica for making an album that he said was to please people, but that everyone thinks is weird. Get your story straight.
    TheBisness87
    GenerationKILL wrote: He can't compare Iron Maiden to Metallica. For one thing, and he should know this, Metallica have always pushed the boundaries with the genre they play and not given a **** what other people have thought. Thats why Metallica rules. A brief history of Metallica not giving a f*ck: -Released "fade to black" and everyone hated them for making " a ballad" -Did a video for "One" and everyone hated them because they were "too underground to do that." -Released "the black album" and everyone hated them for making a "popular metal album." -Released "load and reload" and everyone hated them because they wanted to try something else -Released "S&M" and everyone hated them because "a metal band shouldn't do that" -Sued Napster on the principle that "nobody is in charge of how their music gets distributed other than the artist" (which everyone twisted around and missed the point on..) and everyone hated them. -Released "st. Anger" as a therapeutic experiment and everyone hated them (and missed the point, again...) -Released "Death Magnetic" and everyone hated it (because it was too loud) -Released "Lulu" with Lou Reed, and everyone hated it. Point in case: Metallica does what they want, and aren't sell outs because you're still hating them for NOT doing what you expect or want them to do. So quit whining.
    YES. thank you!
    Niiko
    LOL who? Sorry dude, but you're not the be all and end all of music. You don't have to be on drugs to appreciate the album, it helps but you don't have to be. And how about you guys actually put out a decent album that I can actually sit and listen through it's entirety like I did with Lulu 4 times?
    dedguy666
    L.T Kickass wrote: Oh yes, because remember all that good music Trivium made? Me neither.
    Fail.
    Bananaman1jovan
    Umm i as a rule hate Metallica, really they suck really bad even ride the lightning sucked. But this album actually caught my attention, its not great but its avante-garde and i respect them for finally not making something so radio-geared. I dont love it but i dont hate it and i have a whole new respect for them as musicians even though all their riffs/drums/vocals sucked but it all sucked synonymously and it worked.( still hate lars ulrich)
    kevindm215
    I've got a good thing to counter that. So does Iron MonsterJunkie Maiden. They've got millions of dollars and when they get out of bed I'll have you know Iron Maiden have millions of pounds AHAHAHAHHAHAHA!!!! awesome dude
    kevindm215
    @ MonsterJunkie I've got a good thing to counter that. So does Iron Maiden. They've got millions of dollars and when they get out of bed I'll have you know Iron Maiden have millions of pounds Aahahahahhahahahah!!! awesome dude.
    SGofawesome
    GenerationKILL wrote: He can't compare Iron Maiden to Metallica. For one thing, and he should know this, Metallica have always pushed the boundaries with the genre they play and not given a **** what other people have thought. Thats why Metallica rules. A brief history of Metallica not giving a f*ck: -Released "fade to black" and everyone hated them for making " a ballad" -Did a video for "One" and everyone hated them because they were "too underground to do that." -Released "the black album" and everyone hated them for making a "popular metal album." -Released "load and reload" and everyone hated them because they wanted to try something else -Released "S&M" and everyone hated them because "a metal band shouldn't do that" -Sued Napster on the principle that "nobody is in charge of how their music gets distributed other than the artist" (which everyone twisted around and missed the point on..) and everyone hated them. -Released "st. Anger" as a therapeutic experiment and everyone hated them (and missed the point, again...) -Released "Death Magnetic" and everyone hated it (because it was too loud) -Released "Lulu" with Lou Reed, and everyone hated it. Point in case: Metallica does what they want, and aren't sell outs because you're still hating them for NOT doing what you expect or want them to do. So quit whining.
    VERY good summary! Agreed through and through. I like how you even put reasons why people hated it and noted that they were all stupid (except Lulu, that record is truly a miss but that's not the point).
    bassmike200
    Trivial (I know what I typed) weighing in on Lou Reed Metallica, their opinion is not one I care to hear , they're certainly entitled to it but I ain't gonna read it!
    d3cr3p1tb1rth
    Metallica's and Lou Reed's, "LuLu" sucks in my opinions, Lou made metallica in to a shitty band, ive lost respect for metallica. ALl i can say is that Lou reed joining Metallica is like Fredrik thorendal(Meshuggah) joining Guns n Roses, like they suck now, thats all i got to say about that
    Mr. Dragon
    He can't compare Iron Maiden to Metallica. For one thing, and he should know this, Metallica have always pushed the boundaries with the genre they play and not given a **** what other people have thought. Thats why Metallica rules. A brief history of Metallica not giving a f*ck: -Released "fade to black" and everyone hated them for making " a ballad" -Did a video for "One" and everyone hated them because they were "too underground to do that." -Released "the black album" and everyone hated them for making a "popular metal album." -Released "load and reload" and everyone hated them because they wanted to try something else -Released "S&M" and everyone hated them because "a metal band shouldn't do that" -Sued Napster on the principle that "nobody is in charge of how their music gets distributed other than the artist" (which everyone twisted around and missed the point on..) and everyone hated them. -Released "st. Anger" as a therapeutic experiment and everyone hated them (and missed the point, again...) -Released "Death Magnetic" and everyone hated it (because it was too loud) -Released "Lulu" with Lou Reed, and everyone hated it. Point in case: Metallica does what they want, and aren't sell outs because you're still hating them for NOT doing what you expect or want them to do. So quit whining.
    Thank you for pointing out the details hidden in plain sight!!
    slipknot836
    L.T Kickass wrote: Oh yes, because remember all that good music Trivium made? Me neither.
    Because a random UG user can judge a band on personal opinion... Douche. Metallica and Trivium are great bands, just not too keen on the latest stuff