For Today Guitarist Mike Reynolds: 'Homosexuality Is a Sin'

Christian metalcore band guitarist says that "homosexuality is a sin" and is urging fellow Christians to "separate" themselves from any "civil religion that advocates sin."

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Guitarist Mike Reynolds of the Christian metalcore band For Today says that "homosexuality is a sin" and is urging fellow Christians to "separate" themselves from any "civil religion that advocates sin."

In a series of tweets earlier (scroll down to read them), Reynolds commented on the news of Pastor Louie Giglio's withdrawal from President Barack Obama's second-term inauguration ceremony after reports emerged of an anti-gay sermon the Atlanta pastor delivered in the 1990s, reports Blabbermouth.

Reacting to the report that LGBT advocates responded to Giglio's selection by launching a petition calling for Obama to replace him with a pastor who has a history of supporting LGBT equality, Reynolds wrote:

"There IS a state church being formed, there is going to be an exclusive acceptance of preachers who advocate the LGBT.

"Don't be deceived, homosexuality is a sin. This sin with all other sins is what Jesus died for. He conquered so that we would be free."

He continued: "[There is] no such thing as a gay Christian, the same as there is no such thing as a Christian who loves his sin.

"Don't be fooled by the formation of a state church as though the government is being converted, they only use the name of Jesus for their progressive liberal agenda.

"If you are a Christian, then separate yourself from this civil religion that advocates sin. Be true to God."

After the guitarist's comments drew ire from some of his followers, the band issued the following collective statement via its Facebook page:

"For Today has always and will always be a band that is about loving people. We have no hatred towards any people, regardless of what they believe or how they live. We may not agree on everything, but Jesus loves you and died for you. And so would we."

For Today's latest studio album, "Immortal", sold nearly 15,000 copies in its first week of release in the United Sattes to debut at position No. 15 on The Billboard 200 chart. The CD received mixed reviews from UG users and currently holds 7.5/10 rating on Ultimate Guitar.

Progressive liberal agenda. If you are a Christian then separate yourself from this civil religion that advocates sin. Be true to God.

Mike Reynolds (@Mikefortoday) January 10, 2013

Don't be fooled by the formation of a state church as though the government is being converted, they only use the name of Jesus for their

Mike Reynolds (@Mikefortoday) January 10, 2013

No such thing as a gay Christian, the same as there is no such thing as a Christian who loves his sin.

Mike Reynolds (@Mikefortoday) January 10, 2013

Don't be deceived, homosexuality is a sin. This sin with all other sins is what Jesus died for. He conquered so that we would be free.

Mike Reynolds (@Mikefortoday) January 10, 2013

There IS a state church being formed, there is going to be an exclusive acceptance of preachers who advocate the LGBT. m.dallasvoice.com/anti-gay-inaug

Mike Reynolds (@Mikefortoday) January 10, 2013

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    WholeLottaIzzy
    This sort of thing pisses me off. It's the 21st century for ****'s sake. Get with the times.
    Oixord
    That is exacly like saying 'It's a sin to be born with brown hair'. You have no control over the way you are born. It pisses me off when people don't understand that...
    tennesseehild
    I do not quiet support this comment as I have seen many men and women just one day DECIDE that they want to be with people of the same sex. I am by no means advocating the comments above, but I am saying that the arguement that people are "born to be LGBT", I believe is a false assumption. As for further comment I hope that when the WBC and all those christians that proclaim that things are a sin because they do not agree with that lifestyle, get to Heaven ,if there is one (I belive in Valhalla), and God and Jesus turn out to be queer as the day is long.
    raoooos
    You've seen people "decide"? Are you sure they weren't just hiding their real feelings for fear of judgement and oppression from close-minded morons?
    Lion_Slicer
    It's not really a "belief" if it is objectively and demonstratively wrong. I can't "believe" the sky is pink with green polka dots.
    chrisa94
    For ****'s sake, it's this sort of thing that makes it hard to be Catholic in this day and age. The biblical arguments against homosexuality are similar to those against having a tattoo, or even 'wearing two clothes of different material'. It's mainly from the old Jewish law, the vast majority of which is disregarded by modern Christians anyway.Please don't take this guy as a spokesperson for all Christians, most of us are tolerant, functioning members of society.
    starsky133
    I know you exist, and thank you for being a good Christian. I just wish more of them were like you.
    metalgod96
    The logic behind so many of these arguments is flawed. "God created everyone.What you are is how God made you." So if someone is gay, suddenly God didn't make them and they're sinners. I'm also pretty sure the bible says we are all equal under the eyes of God, right? So if God places homosexuals at the same level as everyone else, why can't we? I don't care for (or really believe in) God, but he/she doesn't bother me. It's just a very vocal chunk of his followers that are a-holes. Also, I think the creator of the universe with infinite power has far better things to do than worry about who's sleeping with who and who's in love with who.
    tennesseehild
    What I would like to know is: By Christian philosiphy God knows everything about your life before you are even born, has plans for your life, knows your every thought, etc. So if God hates LGBT as much as everyone believes then why even create them when God knows how they will turn out?
    turn_the_page93
    Free will. If God made every one of us perfect, law-abiding citizens without the option to choose otherwise then we'd just be a bunch of slaves to His will, with no real reason for existence. Like the garden of Eden; the fruit from the tree of good/evil wasn't in itself evil, but more of a representation of the option to go against his will. I say this as a non-denominational Christian, and I do support gay rights.
    EyesWideOpen
    It's impossible for something to know everything and for there to be free will at the same time. It just doesn't make logical sense. Either god is all powerful or he gave us free will and doesn't know what will happen.
    Voodoochile711
    If his religion holds a certain belief and he truly believes in that religion then no one has any right to hate him for it. He is just stating his beliefs using the right given to him by our constitution.
    EyesWideOpen
    Just because he has the right to say what he wants doesn't mean we don't have the right ot criticise it. People are quick to pick holes in everything and then for some reason when belief comes into it we're just supposed to back away and "respect their beliefs".
    Craig_Christian
    Is that the same constitution that allows the continuous massacres at the hands of gun toting maniacs?
    Voodoochile711
    ....Even if that WAS in the constitution (it definitely isn't and never has been), can you really say it's fine to hate someone for their beliefs? Isn't that what everyone's accusing him of?
    tric565
    someones beliefs and actions are exactly what they should be judged on. people are entitled to believe whatever they want and we are entitled to hate each other for those beliefs too. And there is a difference between his side and their hate speech towards homosexuals or atheists or other religions or women. Our side allows them to say what they want as long as the accept the fact the majority will not agree with them and will probably have a lot of hostility towards them for it. Do you think that if it was people like this fellow or those god hates f*gs people who had the power that they be quite so diplomatic?
    Lion_Slicer
    The kind of hate he is getting is mostly just anonymous people on the internet thinking he's a moron. On the other hand, the kind of hate he is promoting is the systematic denial of human rights to millions of citizens because of the way they are. I hate that kind of thing. Any American should.
    Craig_Christian
    Who gives a shit about this morons' opinion. He should just go and play with himself... Oh wait, that's a sin.
    Zan595
    I don't know what's more ridiculous, this asshat's completely narrow minded opinion on homosexuality, or all the "modern" Christians that are jumping in saying "MODERN CHRISTIANITY DOESNT SUPPORT THIS! WE'RE HIP!". You either believe in the bible, or you don't. There is no picking out the pieces you like and only listening to those, and there is no "updating" your holy scripture every hundred years to keep up with the times.
    yoman297
    I'm on my way to being agnostic... basically the only things I believe now are the things that came out of the mouth of Jesus himself. I know it's bullshit and I can't really defend that.
    DexterF
    You never heard what that carpenter from nazareth said. You know chinese whispers. But good thing you don't take for granted what the propaganda ministry throws at you.
    DexterF
    I renounced my faith anyway, but seriously, if christians said "we will update our holy scripture because we really really need to arrive in the 21st century" that would increase chances of them and me coming closer to being friends at least. Why shouldn't they?
    Zan595
    Because their "scripture" was apparently written by a prophet thousands of years ago, who was told what to write down by God himself. If these people truly believed in the Christian God, they wouldn't be changing his word every couple of years to make themselves more acceptable to the general populace's views. You can't just say "Oh, well people aren't agreeing with this holy scripture thing anymore, let's modify it." Even worse are people who claim to be Catholic and follow absolutely none of the bible's teachings, then say things like "I have my own relationship with God." or completely deny certain sections of the bible exist. My point- you either follow the original scripture and you're a mindless, racist, sexist, genocide enthusiast; or you follow the "new" scripture, and you're a mindless sheep that's following a religion so constantly updated that it isn't even close to being the same religion anymore.
    Zan595
    And don't take this as me hating all Christians, I don't- a few of my best friends and band mates are the modern "Catholic" type. We've just grown to accept that we don't like each other's views on the topic, doesn't mean we can't get along.
    Whiteboy_az
    It's Christians like this that slowly turned me Agnostic.
    shoule79
    They almost turned me off of Christianity, but I more kind of feel sorry for them now. They must have had something bad happen to them or to their families to harbor this kind of hate for someone who hasn't done anything to them.
    mrozzy123fest
    things like theese make me happy to be an atheist haha
    SteezyBeast420
    Everyone needs to watch this movie The Genesis Code it is amazing. And remain open minded for those who don't believe in the Bible
    DexterF
    Beware the cult of purity // Infectious imbecility What bugs me is that enough people who don't know the lyrics will like their music and propagate the band without knowing what sort of nazi shit they're supporting. While nazi rock bands don't make a secret of what goes around in their heads this "christian" thing disguises their mindset as being something about love harmony yadda yadda. Revelation, Revolution, I see through your Christ illusion!
    wmed05
    While I don't necessarily agree with everything he said, let the man have his beliefs just as you've been allowed to have yours. This whole "Christians are the Devil" thing is getting old. The level of close-minded, immature hate-mongering on this site is absolutely ridiculous. And the guys that write these articles aren't helping anything by constantly putting out articles meant to induce flaming so they can get more traffic on UG. It's good to know that the shocking level of unprofessionalism hasn't changed here.
    Shredderman2010
    This article is a joke. They left out the fact that the band kicked out that guitarist the next day, and that another member then posted a video saying how sorry he was and offering for anyone offended by the guitarist's comments to call his cell phone and talk to him
    Hungry_Hameds
    Ironically enough the now-ex guitarists comments have probably brought more attention to the band he's now left than they've ever had... sucks to be him in lots of ways...
    ThatZachGuy
    "I believe in morality, which is doing what is right regardless of what I'm told... not in religion, which is doing what I'm told regardless of what is right." - Anonymous I know it's not original, but I feel like this is the perfect statement against the whole "it's a sin" bullshit.
    Craig_Christian
    Don't get me wrong, I agree with the right to free speech Im just saying that the cnstitution is regularly used as an excuse for idiocy.
    Voodoochile711
    I agree that we use the constitution as an excuse, but it's still hypocritical to hate him for his beliefs.
    INstaNt-RocK
    Nevermind the pressing political issue here. I can't be the only one laughing my ass of at the term 'Christian metalcore'. That's some funny sh1t right there.
    dr718
    The angrier a person gets in response to comments like these, the more they should look at themselves and ask why it bothers them so much. Maybe it's how you feel about yourself that makes you so uptight about simple words from a guy in a band...
    Telemonster4
    I agree completely. It seems kind of ridiculous that everyone is calling him judgmental and saying he is hating, while at the same time they are judging and hating Christians based off of one persons words. Seems a little hypocritical imo
    MichaelScarn
    I actually disagree with him on the "there is no such thing as a gay christian" homosexuality is just another sin that people can struggle with- just like heterosexual lust or alcoholism or anything else- I believe you can be a christian and gay but I dont see how you can not try to to get out of that lifestyle when the Bible clearly says "it is detestable"- unfortunately many Christians are ignorant of their own religion
    headbang123
    Holy shit. People. The man has a different opinion. If people can have gay pride parades and protest for gay rights then people can sure as hell disagree with it. No ones telling them to ride in the back of the bus or throwing them in jail. Some people just think marrage shuld only be a traditonal bond between men and women. Now stop taking yourselves so seriously. Now I'm Christian/republican and I don't have much of a problem with gay marrage. Mainly because that's like making it illega to sin. If someone wants to it's their choice as much as it's a choice to be Christian. But I'm not an avid supporter of gay rights activism.
    electricblue2
    Yeah he has the right to an opinion, but we also have the right to call him a douchebag and waste of breath for it.
    headbang123
    How is he a douchebag? He said nothing offensive. Just that Christianity shouldn't be asscociated with homosexuality and that the government is trying to force it to.
    Lovezoid
    No, he said it was a SIN. Saying someone burns in hell for eternity for a social behaviour is a little different than advocating equal human rights. I'm offended when people call me a sinner because they're co-opting me into their belief structure and I automatically have to defend myself within a framework I never subscribed to in the first place. Remove the idea of sin and god, fine, express your opinon if you must. But it's not like gay people first define every non-gay as a gaybasher. If you must express your opinion, then keep it objective. There is nothing objective about faith.
    Vincentdrummer
    I think Christian metalcore is a sin. I hate this religious thinking. It's not the dark ages anymore....
    Mtn Dew
    I think, from my own understanding of the Word, that he means you can't call yourself a Christian and live a homosexual lifestyle. Blatantly sinning, knowing that it is wrong, and wearing the name of Christian can't work.
    aig91
    No religion bashing will be tolerated. No atheist/agnostic bashing will be tolerated. No homosexual bashing will be tolerated. Keep it respectful and civilzed. *Checked*
    georgebushguy79
    Okay so Biblical principles on which the United States was founded upon no longer apply in this day in age? You probably support our communist president.
    jurnag12
    Lemme throw some things to you: First, so you're proposing, I am assuming, that the US follow biblical principles directly in law in this age? "our civil rights have no dependence on our religious opinions, any more than our opinions in physics or geometry" That would be from one of the founding fathers, Thomas Jefferson. The same person, incidentally, who said the following: "Christianity neither is, nor ever was, a part of the common law."
    Darth Wader
    Everything he says is supported by the bible. Homosexuality is a sin. And the bible calls us to love sinners which is what Mike Reynolds is doing here. And the bible calls us to seek and save the lost in a dying world which is what Mike Reynolds is doing here.
    LordDagoth4
    The problem with this "lost and dying world" (good way of putting it) is that people believe what they see. Many people seem to think that if they believe in God when Jesus returns they will be saved. I honestly feel nothing but sympathy for all the people with their eyes shut in denial. To everyone, what would you do if you knew you were going to die tomorrow? I seriously hope you would all make sure you were ready to meet your maker.
    shoule79
    1) what he is saying is supported in the old testament, but is not in any of jesus' teachings (its in Leviticus). 2) in the same book of the bible where homosexuality is declared a sin they mention rules for how to properly wipe your ass and how women who have their period must leave the village and be unclean until its over. My point is that people pick what they want to out of the bible to meet line up with their own prejudices, and that nobody follows what is in there 100%, or even tries to for that matter.
    Nero Galon
    And you wonder why christians get a bad name for themselves.... Strange thing is that I have a friend called Mike Reynolds :L
    Lion_Slicer
    I'd like to point out that the modern Christian belief that homosexuality is a sin is actually just a corollary of the belief that ANY sex that is not for the purposes of procreation is a sin. Same reason that it's a sin to use condoms, and same reason you can't get married if you are infertile. Obviously it's not right, but no one seems to understand this point, especially Christians for some reason.
    LordDagoth4
    Where did you get that list of sins from? None of them are true. It is a sin to have sex of any sort outside of marriage, and that's it. Do you honestly believe that they had condoms 2000 years ago when the majority of the Bible was written?
    bluesbrat
    The bible talks a lot about the pull-out method. God even killed a guy for it, if I remember correctly. Seems pretty parallel to condoms. Just another form of contraception.
    shoule79
    They did have condoms 2000 years ago. They were made out of sheep stomachs.
    tric565
    If expressing your love for another human is a sin just because they happen to be the same gender as you then surely being in a heavy metal band and promoting the rock n roll life style and the devils music is also a sin.
    chrisa94
    It's a Christian metal band...
    tric565
    I'm fully aware of that, I did read the article. My point is that if you are calling people who are essentially just expressing love for each other, sinners because they happen to be of the same gender and your old antiquated little book of morals says thats wrong and therefore it is wrong... Well then, what are you doing in a band where the music is so heavily associated with the devil and all things evil? I know as well as you do that no music is evil but I also know homosexuals arent sinners for being homosexuals. I suspect though that this man, like most people who live their life by any one book, is simply cherry picking which bits of it suit him and which bits dont and the bits about homosexuals suit him because he is homophobic and or a bully.
    iommi600
    JMZ08
    That was the most unfunny thing I've ever seen.
    iommi600
    Well, it's not supposed to be funny (I guess), I didn't laugh either. Anyway, on topic (if the video is too much): yup, this is ridiculous talk, something I'd expect to hear in the 17th century, not in the 21st.
    KTbass
    Yeah jesus said that everyone has a place in heaven prostitutes,thieves,murderers,rapists but gays ,thats where he drew the line
    turn_the_page93
    Free will. If God made every one of us perfect, law-abiding citizens without the option to choose otherwise then we'd just be a bunch of slaves to His will, with no real reason for existence. Like the garden of Eden; the fruit from the tree of good/evil wasn't in itself evil, but more of a representation of the option to disobey.
    doomsdayscottie
    In other news, Westboro Baptist Church now has a band to play their "We Hate Everything" Picnic later this year.
    Crimson.King
    "For Today has always and will always be a band that is about loving people." As long as they're not the same gender. "We have no hatred towards any people, regardless of what they believe or how they live. We may not agree on everything, but Jesus loves you and died for you. And so would we." The band loves us and would die for us? Oh please. This is nothing more than a pathetic attempt at public relations damage control.
    Drobbins1022
    I met the band at a concert recently. If you met the band and have followed them as long as most fans have, you'd know that he was being seriously whole-hearted. The band really does love everyone and would do anything for their fans. Mattie Montgomery gave his phone number away in the video. It's his legitimate phone number. Clearly he is doing everything in his power to this whole issue, but at least he is showing that he really cares.
    shoule79
    So they love homosexuals? Sounds like a classic closet case. Can't get comfortable with their own homosexuality.
    coffinpilot
    Straight athiest , married (surprisingly Happy!) with 4 kids , but I'd make a move forhim if I met him , just for a laugh of course .
    jefferMC
    well, i mean we should know how to treat to every person, but we cant hide what jesus want us to show... and althought their desition should be respected we cant be agree with their sin just as we shouldnt with a muderer or a lier... we should stand in our conviction but always remenbering that jesus sent us to get this world turned to him... so that we should love everybody and it doesnt meant that we are going to be happy or careless with their sin...
    Goshmac
    Just get a bible, read romans 1,26-27 and decide for yourself if it's a sin or not.
    electricblue2
    Chuckling at the irony of the "UGH BIEBER AND ONE DIRECTION SO BAD AND THEREFORE SO GAY CAUSE BEING GAY IS BAD" kids suddenly defending being gay
    shoule79
    They did have condoms 2000 years ago. Roman historians have found records of centurions using sheep stomachs as rudimentary condoms.
    ilovemySG
    i read the medaled comment as "This boobs sort of thing boobs pisses me off. It's the 21st century boobs for ****'s sake. Get with the times boobs.