GWAR: Rob Zombie Is A Sell-Out

Zombie is "a tired, G-Rated mishmash of other people's styles" and ripped off GWAR, according to their frontman Oderus Urungus. Is he right about Zombie and his "circle jerk" crew of director buddies?

GWAR: Rob Zombie Is A Sell-Out
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GWAR frontman David Brockie (better known as Oderus Urungus) has slammed Rob Zombie as "a tired, G-Rated mishmash of other people's styles." He says other artists have tried to do what GWAR only to make money, but "no one has ever out-sicked us." "You think these Walmart behemoths of the music industry like Marilyn Manson or Rob Zombie are really scary people?" asked Brokie. "All they care about is making money, and hanging out with their director buddies as they throw gala award ceremonies to circle jerk each other into a frenzy. GWAR is where GWAR should be: In the drawer marked filth." He continued, "I have a direct quote from Rob Zombie about GWAR when he was figuring out what he wanted to do with his career... he said, 'The first time I saw GWAR, I thought 'I want to be that, but I want to make money.'' That, to me, says a lot about Rob Zombie as an artist. It says that he isn't one." Brockie gives more credit to Marylin Manson for having a genuine obnoxious streak, and respects Slipknot for their music despite using clique imagery. He recognises that GWAR have also borrowed visual ideas, "but no-one has gone further than GWAR has gone." Is the GWAR frontman right to knock other artists who have found ways to make money from similar sick themes? Is GWAR too weird for a mainstream audience? Let us know your thoughts in the comments.

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    davyyy
    SLAMMED.
    pantallica87
    The only way to copy gwar is to dress up like pigs with shoulder pads and make noise. Neither Zombie nor Manson do that from what ive seen.
    hotdogs585
    yeah Gwar is more about the theatrics. rob zombie and marilyn manson both were both incredibly boring live (I actually did see them)
    Slaytan666
    Marilyn Manson was hammered at the last show I saw. It was actually really entertaining
    hotdogs585
    i actually do like a good portion of MM's older songs but i was really unimpressed with him live when i saw him a few years ago after eat me drink me came out. after growing up hearing about how "crazy and demented" his live shows are i was really let down, he was probably fun back before mechanical animals came out. also saw rob zombie play at a sold out venue with a capacity of about 1000, the only good part of that show was John 5 running around the stage. Being a fan of gwar i probably could only tell you the names of like 8 of their songs but i sure as hell have a blast every time i see them live, their music isnt bad but its not spectacular either. id much rather blast gwar over rob zombie or manson though
    anvil is god
    So what if he wants money? Music is also a business. If it takes toning it down to be commercially viable, so be it.
    Dostoyevskian
    I agree. I guess it's a pretty repulsive idea to most of us, but if someone wants to make purposefully commercial music, and people want to buy it, that's their own business.
    Camron62\m/
    i could name off a bunch of things Rob Zombie could've been inspired by, but GWAR isn't one of the immediate ones. i think Rob Zombie/White Zombie has always been original.
    Valgoroth
    Rob Zombie isn't a sellout, I would say he's the exact opposite. He's doing EXACTLY what he loves, even though there are a shit ton of people telling him to stop. He's just telling everybody "LOLno I get to make horror movies and play rock music in arenas. GTFO"
    crazysam23_Atax
    White Zombie basically broke up because the rest of the band didn't like how Rob wanted to do more "dance-metal" stuff (whatever that is). The rest of the band decided his ideas weren't leading to heavy enough music.
    sevvi
    you know hellbilly deluxe, that kinda stuff. dancemetal. I hear he's going to do a meal version of gangnam style with that psy dood.
    reversegenesis
    When I see Oderus ripping into people and then seeing the responses of people who don't realize it's part of his character I feel like I'm in on the joke.
    hotdogs585
    my favorite is metalheads who think gwar is awesome because of how "brutal" they are, dave brockie said in an interview that gwar is kind of a parody on metal bands who take themselves too seriously. im from the richmond area, gwar are local legends
    thes50
    From what I know about this band, don't take ANYTHING they say seriously.
    thebigredjj10
    Me neither. 90% of the stuff they say is tongue in cheek humour that cannot be taken very seriously. People unfamiliar with GWAR might think they are actually seriously this arrogant, even though their comments are part of their stage personas, which are extremely insane space aliens.
    tommyhouse1988
    He's joking. Stop getting worked up, morons. It makes you look stupid. There are several comments that are already pointing this out. Not a fan of GWAR, but Oderus is pretty funny. White Zombie owns.
    Anjohl
    1) I think this is his way of complimenting Rob. 2) Rob's live show is spectacular; the best I have ever seen. 3) zi'd love to see Gwar live, though it won't be the same without Corey.
    Wisthler
    Oderus Orungus is the biggest ***** in Metal, that guy tries to sound smart and all, calling everyone else a "idiots" "foolmouths" or then again "Assholes" on his twitter. Two hours after he twitts that, he twitts stuff like "I KIDNAPTED, RAPED, AND MURDERED AN ENTIRE FEMENINE GYM TEAM!"
    vppark2
    i just checked his profile because i was curious, and find to see this tweet, "Getting the triplets of sodomy ready for tonights cum-bath!"...What the actual **** did i just read? Also, his backround photo looks like someone who could be on WoW...
    Wisthler
    I swear to god, if you send him a twitt he WILL reply you, I sent him one once, saying "God you call dave mustaine an *****, and then you twitt that shit? Please shut the **** up..." And he replied "I AM ODERUS, YOU SHUT UP!" But if you just use a minimun level of trolling and answer him with something like "And if I don't what, are you going to cap locks me to death?" He just shuts up.
    iommi600
    GWAR talks way too much... they are not remotely as relevant as they think they are.
    ProgJazzMath
    He obviously hasn't seen The Devil's Rejects... that movie is about as ****ed up as it gets. Rob Zombie isn't just over the top like GWAR is. He has STYLE.
    ozzfest434
    A sell out? Would GWAR rather have a roof over their heads or nothing ? I think making more money is a good thing ... That's just my say on the matter.
    Harleyrider73
    Todays music pure garbage. Everyone sounds the same. they all want to make money live in mansions. I respect GWAR they go out and they tour like crazy with no radio support. In my eyes when GWAR plays on the radio they have sold out to Sleazy E
    benbini
    In the 'more GWAR news' section: "GWAR cancel tour, claim they 'can't afford' to play".... looks like Rob Zombie and Marilyn Manson might have had the right idea....
    MrDo0m
    ...also, given the context of the article, it's "cliche," not "clique."
    slobberface
    Too bad that GWAR has been around longer than either of them
    crazysam23_Atax
    GWAR was formed one year before White Zombie. So...that claim is basically stupid.
    GhostPlayground
    Not really, Death got the idea to become a death metal band from the band Possessed, which released their first album within a few months of 'Scream bloody gore'. Oh, and before I get a bunch of haters saying that Death started out in 1983 and Possessed started in 1984, i'll point out that although Death was around in 1983 and releasing demos, these demos sounded more like Thrash metal (Metallica, Venom, Slayer) than death metal.
    crazysam23_Atax
    What exactly does the idea of Death Metal have to do with GWAR or Zombie, except for the fact that GWAR has somewhat of a death metal sound?
    phili666
    GWAR has nothing of a death metal sound, what are you talking about? also saying death got the idea of death metal from possessed is retarded. early death sounded a lot more like death metal than posessed which was more like thrash metal. both bands were important to the development of the genre but death played a much bigger role in the genre.
    crazysam23_Atax
    [QUOTE=phili666]GWAR has nothing of a death metal sound, what are you talking about?[/QUOTE] I was being facetious actually.
    Absurder22
    Not really, even Chuck admits he was only pioneering a sound he pulled from Possessed, and Seven Churches is pretty much death metal. Also Possessed released sevenchurches in 85, Scream Bloody gore came out in 87. Morbid Angel's Abominations of Desolation came out in 86...
    phili666
    indeed but chuck was modest. he played a bigger part over all in the genre. possessed did play a massive part in the origins though. also early death demos came out around the same time as early possessed demos. both band were making heavy thrash metal, it took a while before the genre actually evolved into what we know it as and death played a bigger part in that evolution than possessed.