Indian Girl Rock Band Quit After Hate Campaign

The teenage girls wanted to perform at a Battle of the Bands, but an online hate campaign has made them quit music forever.

Indian Girl Rock Band Quit After Hate Campaign
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Members of a female high-school rock band in India have been forced into hiding after an online hate campaign. The band Pragaash, which means First Light, were labelled "prostitues" by the online backlash, where people accused them of "Western-style cultural waywardness." They soon disbanded, but then decided to quit playing instruments altogether when a senior government cleric called them "indecent" and issues a Fatwa. Their music teacher said: "First, the girls had decided to quit live performance due to an online hate campaign and concentrate on making an album. But after an edict by the government's own cleric, these girls are saying goodbye to music." In their defence, one of the government's top officials wrote on "the talented teenagers should not let themselves be silenced by a handful of morons." Their first plug gig was in December, where they came third in a Battle Of The Bands competition, but a debate soon erupted on social networks on whether it was appropriate for a female band to play in a Muslim region. Many were supportive of the band, but some were abusive and called to ban them from the region.

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    -Retro-
    Sad and disgusting that a bunch of anonymous losers are taking these musicians down. Quitting music altogether is definitely not the solution.
    Kinths
    Honestly for them it is the right solution. We aren't talking about a bunch of internet trolls here, we are talking religious extremists who would happily go to prison or be executed just to stone these girls to death. It's the right solution for their safety and even then they will probably never be safe again.
    Calymos
    If they stop, nothing changes. Isn't rock and roll about sticking it to the man?
    TheNameOfNoone
    No, in Islam countries it's not. It's like when Spongebob is trying to start a fire.
    Noreee
    It's truly disgusting because Islam is supposed to be a religion of peace, and these extremist dicks don't know anything about their own religion. Music saved my life and I hope one day it'll save theirs too.
    RadioTape
    Also, read the qu'ran and then say it's about peace and love. The way islam treats women is disgusting.
    Noreee
    It is and i have. I am a muslim dude and the people who taught me my religion even say that these people are wrong. I think it really is horrible what goes on in the middle east, but I know enough about the religion. Maybe you should read it.
    RadioTape
    I have, and got a totally different reading. I don't want to get into a religious debate but if you look at most of the most intolerant countries in the world they are islamic based, and I don't think it's pure coincidence.
    Noreee
    I'd rather not get into a religious debate as well, but if you have time, please do some research. Sadly it's a religion with A LOT of misconceptions, and a lot of corrupt people claiming to follow it, but i promise that's not how Muslims are supposed to be or act. Hope you have a good day.
    Cavalcade
    And just remember, about a fifth of the whole world is Muslim. For every "death threats = peace" fanatic, there's thousands of perfectly normal people who just believe something different.
    eVwaylon
    I can see your pain. Belonging to a religion that is peaceful and having the extremist buttholes ruining your name. I have done the research and I know exactly what you are talking about. I had heard that most of the extremists don't even have a chance to decide because they are taught that way from birth. So many bungholes in the world ruining lives.
    kaveh640
    it's easy for someone that is not from that part of the world and culture, read a text and have a liberal, happiness and joy view on holy book just to be tolerant. Too much tolerance isn't good. People today are too open minded and accepting of things that aren't even good just so they can be "tolerant"
    slingwine
    Tolerance should be judged by the Jefferson standard: "The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods, or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg." Simplified: If you don't have to pay for it and it doesn't trample your rights, chill.
    UGtom
    Sorry, but that is a remarkably ignorant thing to say. There's plenty of sexism in non-Islamic countries too.
    slingwine
    Noreee -- Every group has it's douche bags man. Each religion, political party, neighborhood, etc. Hell, here in the states we have the Westboro Baptist haters. That doesn't make all Christians bad, nor do these haters in Kashmir make all Muslims bad. Long as a person's behavior doesn't cost me, nor trample my rights they're welcome to do as they please.
    hidd4n
    Westboro Baptist Church, There are extremists in all religions who make most followers look bad
    kaveh640
    you are obviously brainwashed cause if you read the Koran you would see how much hate is actually in it just like other religious texts. There is reason all of our people in the middle east are oppressed and executed and backwards. Islam. Period.
    kaveh640
    not sure why i got voted down. do your research and even then you still won't understand it unless you have lived with these people and this religion.
    lextexrex
    India isn't an Islamic country. However, Kashmir, which is at the north most part of India and shares a border with Pakistan, does have a pretty heavy Muslim population. My family (I'm Indian, by the way) tell me that it's a really beautiful place but that it's politically/religiously pretty backwards. This kind of leaves a stain on India and women's rights and shadows the fact that women have been making progress far longer than most western countries. Heck, women in Indian even made it into politics before women in the US (First women prime minister of India was in 1966). There's definitely room for improvement, though, just like any other country. It does remain sad, however, that many women regardless of country or religion still can't find freedom and equality.
    retroguy02
    "This kind of leaves a stain on India and women's rights and shadows the fact that women have been making progress far longer than most western countries." There we go again. Please just stop with this *Apu accent* "India is beautiful, we are biggest demaaacracy, our women so empowered they dance in endless fields in Bollywood". The world recently saw women's rights in India in multiple cases of gang rape on public transport. You have the highest female infanticide rates in the world. This kind of appalling behavior goes exists throughout Asian/Middle Eastern societies regardless of religion, I think it has to more with the cultural upbringing and a skewed sense of 'honor'. Stop brushing your problems under the carpet and hiding behind the religion argument, you can only address and improve your faults by admitting them first.
    slingwine
    Bro, for me yea. I'd keep playing but I'd stop my girls. I'll risk my life for music but I won't let my teenage girls risk theirs. Gotta find a way to spread liberty. I think we forget that personal liberty allows us and our kids to make music in our own way. (In my case it's poorly played rock but hey, Hendrix I'll never be.) Here's hoping these ladies find their freedom soon.
    Sprike
    wow dude really? u think they should stop all together just because someones going to use force against them? Your what I would consider a toxic waste of life, no one should ever give up on their goals no matter what the cost. Live Free or Die!
    dan0z
    yeah... I'd maybe consider re-reading your statement and having a long hard think. What you've said is ignorant and moronic. I agree it's f*cked up that not all of us in the world share equal freedoms but the way you describe they should deal with the issue comes from pure ignorant fantasy.
    Kinths
    Yeah I'll listen to your point of view when you go and live in an Islamic Country and play rock music there over a long period with no security whatsoever to prove you are so "live free or die" People who claim this sort of dumb shit have never been truly faced with death it's the equivalent of YOLO. Morons thinking life is about doing dumb dangerous shit to prove they have some point in existing. When you have actually come close to dying come back and tell me how live free or die is working for you. A waste of life would be giving up 40-60 years of life to play a in a high school rock band. When one day they may be able to emigrate to a country where they will let them play allthe music they want. I can see your message is already paying off with your inability to spell. You're what I would consider an extreme waste of life and honestly I wish one of these girls was fortunate enough to take your place in society, they would make much better use of it than trying to live by motto's that don't even apply to them. The people who came up with Live Free or Die actually had a chance at changing something, these girls don't. This isn't some inspirational movie where the actions of one high school rock band change the view of religious extremists. This is real life where their actions will get them killed and do nothing. Live Free or Die being the motto of New Hampshire U.S meant as a memorial to John Stark's toast and to those who actually fought and gave their life so you could be free to apparently not learn anything in school and then post that inane bullshit online for the world to see. Something tells me that if they had met you they wouldn't have thought it was a sacrifice worth making and I highly doubt John Stark would have given the toast it originates from in the first place. Learn what it truly means to Live free or Die before spreading the incorrect meaning. It does not mean waste your life for nothing like you seem to think it does.
    guitarpro15
    I always wondered what that "Live Free or Die" motto meant whenever I seen New Hampshire license plates. Thanks for the insight! (I'm a Canadian, haha)
    Kinths
    No problem It may surprise you to know that I myself am a Brit.
    Sprike
    Someone from a Cun-try that cant even hold on to its own colony or defend itself against nazi germany without our help souldent criticize the sentiments of our people. You sound like a spineless coward, you dont even know me and you assume iv never dealt with death? go drink a cup of tea.
    RJMHST
    You're just an idiot dude, stop attacking people because you were proved wrong its extremely unattractive and doesn't help your point in any way.
    shiggityswah
    Congratulations, you are the creator of the two dumbest posts I've ever seen on UG. You see a lot of people trying to be funny with drunk threads and strange stories, but you have successfully written the two most pathetic attempts at a serious comment I've ever seen. People like you give Americans a bad name, and then you wonder why?
    Scorpyin
    Kettle, meet pot. Now YOU'RE being a toxic waste of ignorance... First of all people can have opinions, even if theyre wrong or disagree with you, that doesn't mean your any smarter or better than them. Second, if John Stark heard what you said about this person he'd hate YOU, not the ignorant kid. I'm sure he'd be smart enough to present his side of the story without blowing up like some pseudo-intellect, I'm sure people like John Stark understood the importantance of sticking together as a civilization and would educate an 'ignorant' mind, not scold them for having an opinion. Third, "Morons thinking life is about doing dumb dangerous shit to prove they have some point in existing."... Well then O great fountain of knowledge, who knows the answers to the questions humans can never answer, please enlighten us on what life is actually about then? YOU'RE also a moron...
    Kinths
    To Scorpyin: "I'm sure he'd be smart enough to present his side of the story without blowing up like some pseudo-intellect, I'm sure people like John Stark understood the importantance of sticking together as a civilization and would educate an 'ignorant' mind, not scold them for having an opinion." "First of all people can have opinions, even if theyre wrong or disagree with you, that doesn't mean your any smarter or better than them." "YOU'RE also a moron..." 1. I like how you attempt to scold me for insulting someone else about their opinion and then you go and the exact same yourself, "blowing up like some psuedo-intellect" with a holier than thou attitude and insulting me for my opinion with the exact words that one of your points was against, since they imply you think you're "smarter or better" than me (or at least that is what you seem to think they imply based on your comment and reaction to them) At least I wasn't being a hypocrite. 2. How does one be a toxic waste of ignorance, Is there such thing as a good use of ignorance? 3. I wouldn't care if John Stark hated me, it wasn't me or the freedom of my country that he and his men fought and gave their lives for. I'm not an American nor do I mis-use his toast to try and encourage people to waste their life for nothing. 4. I don't know what life is about(obviously) but if someone is going to assume it's fine to tell three people to waste their's and possibly those of their friends and family for the sake of being in a high school rock band, then yeah I am going to assume that person is dumb. Does that make me intelligent? No. 5. The person I wrote the comment to proved my point when they responded with a comment not aimed at the original criticism of their own comment but at where in the world I live while missing the point that I was criticizing their mis-use of a sentiment and not the original sentiment itself. Invoking some good old stereotyping, xenophobia and skewed history while doing so. "Someone from a Cun-try that cant even hold on to its own colony or defend itself against nazi germany without our help souldent criticize the sentiments of our people. You sound like a spineless coward, you dont even know me and you assume iv never dealt with death? go drink a cup of tea." 6. I don't care about Sprike, he/she is a lost cause, way past the point of no return. You can't educate people like that(not through an internet comment anyhow) you can educate others who see that comment by criticizing it though. I'd rather have not had to insult he/she to get the point across but unfortunately it can be a bit of a weakness of mine at times.
    slingwine
    "please enlighten us on what life is actually about then?" I'll take a shot at that. Corny as it sounds, life is about love. The patriots who came up with the motto so loved their families that they were willing to give their lives to ensure the freedom of their children. It was a vastly different circumstance than in Kashmir. They had allies ,were well armed and had neighbors who either shared their ideals or were willing to supply/hide them. Also, they were not teenage girls. Contrary to some folks ideas, men in their prime generally excel at warfare over women. NOTE: No way in hell if they were my kids I'd let them keep playing. Least not till I smuggled them to a more moderate area. Love my kids too much to let them risk their lives.
    PedroGodoyP
    it must be terrible for them. not just the fact of their safety, but also the impossibility of peacefully sharing your thoughts because of a bunch of religious bastards
    hansome21
    No, the right choice would be not to be a coward. You see, pussys like you never get anything done in life. Think about it, even if they died, spreading rock music, equality, and womens rights to a backwards part of the world that desperately needs it, they would forever be legends and would have done this world a great service. The bullies are just muslims, stay away from rocks because most of them can't read or write, let alone use a real weapon. All muslims are people who are still cavemen, morons by today's standards and cowards who hide behind their false religion. Every day I hear about a drone strike killing a muslim is a good day for the planet earth, and every one of these news articles proves me right.
    sideslick
    They are girls in that area of the world. They weren't safe to begin with.
    fedemonsalve
    India is NOT an islamic country
    Kinths
    Not officially no, but it does have a large following there and is still a massive threat to these girls. To clarify my comment wasn't saying go to India and play rock music. Just go to any country where Islam has a large following with a fair few extremists and try it especially while being Muslim yourself. Bad wording on my part, sorry.
    crazysam23_Atax
    I agree. I really hope that they go ahead and record that album. India needs to stop treating women like slaves.
    hames jetfield
    This doesn't happen in the entire country. This incident is from a particular state which is full of Islamic extremists for historical reasons.
    sykest70
    Isn't that what happened to the lead singer of Fallout Boy? Everyone seemed to applaud that.
    intothe
    That's what I thought as well, pretty ridiculous how different they are treated on here. Personally I think no band or artist (including these guys AND stump) deserve treatment like this, and it's always super sad to see fellow musicians lose their spark for music.
    attilathehun
    dayum they're so bad I can see why there waS a fatwa issued lol, but on serious note if these girls wanna make noise without problems unfortunately they will have to move to a more friendly environment to play whether fun or serious.
    latinromans
    If they can get the makers of southpark to not air an episode in the US they can probably get these girls to stop playing in india, And to anyone talking about how hateful Islam can be take a look at america's version of Christianity, here the party that claims to want to get back to christian values is against providing healthcare for the poor, and has social policy that hurts the most vulnerable among us (the amount of damage the war on drug has inflicted on the inner city with only richer organized crime to show for is unjustifiable). Just look at Paul Ryan, his philosophy is so based on Ayn Rand that he made atlas shrugged mandatory reading in his office, yet when it came to the election he had to say he didn't support her philosophy because it is by design meant to be the antithesis of traditional Christian values. There is a huge divide between how well people claim to present there religion and how they actually present there religion no matter where you go. It's just that while there it takes the form of bombings, demonizing women and christians, and acid in schools girls faces, here it the form of... um, occasional bombings... demonizing the poor, women, and muslims... we'll at least where not throwing acid in school girls faces.
    Akaforty
    India didn't get south park to not air an episode, you're thinking of Islamic countries, India is Hindi. Nice hateful book comment you wrote there. It's like a read a conspiracy theory, every other sentence you wrote is about something completely different and the text isn't even cohesive or coherent.
    RickyThomson
    You know, all your favourite artists were once on the same level as them at performing. They really can't be that bad, they are PLAYING instruments! It's a rarity in this day and age, i tell you! Everybody's generating songs on computers... these girls know what music is, and they are making it themselves. We need more of this, it's always nice to see international bands pop-up. Not everything should be western born "artists" -- if you can call one direction and bieber artists that is.
    FlyingPirahna
    I don't know what kind of computer you have, but mine certainly doesn't have a "generate music" button.
    RickyThomson
    Where have you been since the arrival of cher? The past decade or so has been dominated by robot singers. Lady GaGa, Rihanna, are two examples. They have no talent. It's boring, and mainstream music is over-run by this rubbish. If you read my comment properly, you'd understand the point i was trying to make. These indian girls are playing instruments... that is something that should be respected, it doesn't matter how good you are, the ability to make actual music is a great thing. Personally i'd like to see kids picking up a guitar, bass, or a drum set. Doesn't matter what kind of music they are playing, as long as it's music they are PLAYING. Robot dancers and autotuned machinima rolemodels are past their sell by date.
    MetalSlayerLADC
    I completely agree. its so sad that people cant play because of their sex or religion. what bullshit
    ScottStewart1
    f*ck their religion, they should just reinvent themselves and become a Butcher Babies cover band