Mustaine Backs 'Chemtrail' Conspiracy

Dave Mustaine believes that the trail left by airplanes are a mixture of chemicals being sprayed by the government, and says only a fool would argue against it.

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Dave Mustaine show no signs of halting his run of outlandish statements in 2013.

In his latest rant, the Megadeth frontman threw his weight behind the "chemtrail" conspiracy theory. Believers claims that the trail left by aircraft is a mixture of chemicals which are sprayed across the sky by government officials.

"Shame on the pilots spraying the grid lines in the once beautiful skies of San Diego. Shame, shame, shame!" he tweeted. "It's aluminum oxides & barium salts. They know what their cargo is. Only a fool or an accomplice would argue the unarguable."

Dave neglects to mention that the trails are instead just condensation known as 'contrails'. Of course, engines do produce a lot of nasty chemicals, but they'remore a threat to the environment (which the government often ignores), rather than a conspiracy by the government.

2012 saw many controversial statements from Mustaine, including that African women should "put a plug in it" if they couldn't afford more children, and that President Obama secretly staged the shootings across America. By November, his bandmates in Megadeth made it clear that Mustaine doesn't speak for the band.

Shame on the pilots spraying the grid lines in the once beautiful skies of San Diego. Shame, shame, shame!

Dave Mustaine (@DaveMustaine) January 5, 2013

It's aluminum oxides & barium salts. They know what their cargo is. Only a fool or an accomplice would argue the unarguable. #chemtrails

Dave Mustaine (@DaveMustaine) January 6, 2013

What do you think of chemtrails and the conspiracy theorists? Let us know in the comments.

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    iommi600
    coopgit
    There is some truth to what mustaine is talking about. There's a difference betweeen chemtrails and contrails - a contrail disappears quickly but chemtrails linger for hours. Aluminum is toxic to life and contaminates soil and guess what - monsanto has created crops resistant to aluminum in soil. Boeing is a large shady corporation also! Watch this documentary called what in the world are they spraying:
    coopgit
    There is some truth to what mustaine is talking about. There's a difference betweeen chemtrails and contrails - a contrail disappears quickly but chemtrails linger for hours. Aluminum is toxic to life and contaminates soil and guess what - monsanto has created crops resistant to aluminum in soil. Boeing is a large shady corporation also! Watch this documentary called what in the world are they spraying:
    Ryan_Good1
    Thank you for posting this twice, meant I got to -1 it twice.
    coopgit
    I don't know why it posted twice I only hit the button once. But how about you watch the full documentary with an open mind before you decide to be ignorant and -1 it?
    Ryan_Good1
    Yes, ignorant. It isn't as if I am most of my way through a masters in Physics and have a relatively good understanding of how contrails are formed. As many people have already said, this conspiracy just doesn't have any logical weight. Every high altitude plane can create contrails, that is a very widespread conspiracy.
    zeroceid
    I too am doing a masters in physics and "coopgit" you are an uneducated moron. A documentary can be biased and this one definately is.
    gitbad
    Did you even watch the documentary? There are extreme amounts of aluminum contaminating the environment all over the world and there is a huge diffrerence between a chemtrail and a contrail. Atleast watch the film and see that something strange is going on at the very least!
    gitbad
    Not every plane is spraying chemtrails, but many are. Even Bill Gates recently admitted that the atmosphere is being sprayed. A contrail does not linger in the sky for hours like a chemtrail does, at the very least watch the full documentary, you don't have to believe it all but something is going on in the skies
    limpidgreen345
    I love how the conspiracy types talk about how people shouldn't believe everything they hear and they should have an open mind and not be ignorant -- and then they believe just about anything that they can find on the internet, are about as closed-minded as one can be in a debate, and are hysterically ignorant of reality -- in this case basic atmospheric science. The best thing about the internet is that anyone can share their views. The worst thing about the internet is that, indeed, ANYONE can share their views. http://contrailscience.com/
    thes50
    UG please tell me how this is related to music.
    Mustaine1940
    exactly, his life outside of music should be on the news not on here, and seeing is how CNN would rather attack him with metallica comments its funny how hes getting to them, i dont agree with his shootings being staged conspiracy buut i agree with chemtrails its a logical kinda of theory
    spiff-corgi
    "i agree with chemtrails its a logical kinda of theory". How in the hell is it logical? In the article there is a perfectly reasonable explanation for the trails planes leave. There is no scientific backing to the chemtrails theory. It is nonsense made up by people who think that if something sounds cool in fiction then it can be true in real life.
    eVwaylon
    its also not very smart to ignore this theory. its not just Mustaine who thought this up out of no where. he was told by someone he holds as a reliable source. he has friends in the FBI and other government agencies. Now im not saying this is true, but to completely disclose it is foolish. Until you know 100% either way it is a theory. I want to stress that I neither endorse the "chemtrail thoery" or disclose it. Basically i could have just said "please don't jump to conclusions on either side of an argument until you have proof or at least quite strong evidence". trust me, I've made a fool of myself many times by jumping to conclusions.
    spiff-corgi
    You don't need scientific proof from a scientist to know something isn't true. You don't need to talk to a horse expert or a zoologist to know unicorns aren't real. Plane trails exist in every country a plane flies over, with every make of commercial airline from every country producing trails. So is this some amazingly organised logistical task that every country in the world is on, every aviation and health and safety inspection board, everyone in the industry in every country knows about... or is it horse shit? EDIT: You don't need scientific proof to know something ridiculous isn't true.
    lankeysob
    Exactly! Like I don't need to proof from a scientist to know global warming is a crock of shit. But the amount of people who believe this kind of garbage is overwhelming.
    qrEE
    lankeysob - let's do an experiment. Off the top of your head, come up with all of the evidence that you have to suggest that global warming is NOT real. Not anecdotal evidence either. Scientific evidence. Oh wait, you can't, because you'd need to consult a scientist, which you apparently refuse to do. You really think that 99% of the experts on the subject of global warming are all wrong? Well then let's do another experiment - go into a room filled to near capacity with bodybuilders, and tell them that you can take on every one of them at once. See how far that gets you.
    DisarmGoliath
    So do you think that vapour trails from planes cease to exist outside the US and any territories where it holds political sway? Seriously, how can anybody believe such nonsense... Edit: Written before spiff-corgi had ninja'd me!
    jrodgers
    I don't need proof that planes aren't leaving "chemtrails" because even the notion of it is completely f***ing RETARDED! If Dave Mustaine made a statement that Obama was a German shepherd in disguise, would we argue about that on here too?
    qrEE
    eVwaylon - Your thinking is both close minded and unscientific. The reality is that theories are based on mounds and mounds of evidence, and mounds and mounds of tests and studies. At least, scientific theories are. Conspiracy theories are based on skipping the scientific method and jumping straight to a conclusion based on fear. Scientists have already done all of the tests, and have all of the knowledge to assume, without a shadow of a doubt, that it is CONTRAILS, not CHEMTRAILS. Conspiracy theorists have no evidence at all. They just have a claim. Claims are not evidence in and of themselves. Therefore, we can ignore their claims because they have no basis in reality. If I told you that you were actually a horse, would you ignore me? They're equally idiotic of theories, but you apparently are willing to trust the idiots of this world because of a false idea of an open mind.
    gypsyblues7373
    I find it highly unlikely that Mustaine has "friends" in the FBI, unless he's talking about the people who've investigated him. Ever hear the phrase "full of shit"?
    King Zeppelin I
    Dave is ruining Megadeth for me. Obviously his actions shouldn't cloud opinion of the band's music, but it's hard to separate. I'd rather like the people I support. I was a huge fan at one point, even owned one of his signature guitars (his signature pickups are fantastic, by the way), but I'm glad they're more of an occasional listen now; he's just an embarrassment.
    Mustaine1940
    thats pathetic you call yourself a megadeth fan or ever were a big megadeth fan then, sorry to say man but guns n roses shouldnt have any fans if they were all like you for how big of an idiot axl rose is....dont take his personal life and attack the band, hes apologuized for what he says and his action and i know hes still doing it but his life is being a conspiracists, he still writes sick jams with our without the new bothering self
    Chevymeister
    He ruined it for me when he bitched on his site, couldn't take the heat, and deleted one of my favorite forums. It honestly affects how I listen to the music now knowing I can't take the guy seriously.
    Gee Halen
    Okay, this made me open my second beer after a hard day's work. I hope these tweets will make sense after I finish it.
    Gee Halen
    Actually, "Chemtrail" would make a great song title. Just pray it's an instrumental track.
    FREAKAZOID_69
    Wut a idiot. He clearly has a large lack of education. I would like UG to stop posting worthless, pointless articles about musicians uneducated opinions.
    Mustaine1940
    it actually takes alot of intelligence to understand things like this and talk about politics as much as he does, mustaines actually a really smart guy, granted hes said some rather stupid things in his 51 years of living but who cares, hes a sick musician with a sick band lay off ug does thi sbecause the ug community feeds it with people like you commenting this shit even though you all complain about them, doing it you all comment about how stupid he is...
    limpidgreen345
    It doesn't take much intelligence at all to understand things like water vapor freezing at temperatures below -40 and sublimation occurring at different rates depending on humidity.
    Abacus11
    The chem-trail conspiracy is out there and a little strange and paranoid.. but at least it's not hateful or racist. So, in a way, this is actually a step in the right direction for Dave (who I LOVE as a musician but have rightfully been disappointed by a lot of his stupid comments lately).
    PapercutJugular
    Have any of you ever even listened to a Megadeth song? It's not like Dave is really hiding where he's coming from. If anything I appreciate his passion for topics they won't teach you in school. But I'm sure he did absolutely no research whatsoever and he's completely talking out his ass. You kids...
    limpidgreen345
    Nobody who buys into chemtrails does much honest research. It really is laughable if you know much of anything about aviation and the atmosphere. I wonder how many chemtrail believers can calculate ISA deviation without googling "ISA Deviation Calculator"
    UncleBluck
    Apparently Mr. Mustaine has come to the conclusion that he will never achieve the level notariety he seeks via his brand of music ...thus he takes an alternate avenue to supposed immortality....at least in his mind.....
    samhell
    I dunno about any chemtrails but they do spray bug spray from time to time. They usually send out a notice though telling you to keep your pets inside.
    BlackDeath92
    I'm fairly certain at this point that his years of drug abuse have caught up with him. And hit him HARD.
    KingV911
    Can anyone tell me what the point of spraying aluminum oxides & barium salts in the atmosphere would be? I'm aware that 99% of scientists say these trails are mainly vaporized water from the jet engine exhaust, but just curious why this is even a conspiracy theory?
    limpidgreen345
    It's not just scientists, it's anyone who has even a casual interest in aviation or weather. This chemtrail stuff doesn't really have any merit at all.
    qrEE
    KingV911 - I suggest looking into the psychology of conspiracy theorists. The reality is, there are three (possibly more) kinds of conspiracy theorists: 1)Observational - They see things, they don't have an explanation so they come up with one. "Isn't it just a little suspicious that those planes are leaving trails?" 2) Bandwagon - They hear people asking vague questions like the one above, and decide to take the same side as number 1 because they can't find a logical answer as a result of being manipulated and ignorant. 3) Leech - They notice the trend emerging and attach it to whatever they hate in order to spread horrible lies. #1 starts the conspiracy theory. #2 form the bulk of the theorists. #3 are the famous ones. I honestly believe that Dave Mustaine is joining the Bandwagon. He hears people saying "Obama did ___", and can't see a possible reason why it would be otherwise. He's been convinced into the Republican nut-job life-style as a result of listening to the wrong voices of "reason", aka, Number 3 on my list.
    limpidgreen345
    Conspiracy theories are only loosely based on reality and instead rely on fallacious logic, evidence that doesn't exist outside of forum posts and radio shows after 10 PM, and thinly-veiled emotional appeals that aim to rope in loonier civil libertarians. What's funny is that they NEVER just believe in ONE conspiracy -- they believe in all of them. I'm half surprised nobody's brought up WTC #7 yet.
    kmc_1991
    There is actually a difference between contrails and chemtrails. If you're interested in some videos, go to YouTube and search "Contrail vs Chemtrail". Wether or not it's a government experiment... I don't know, but there is an established visual difference between these two types of trails.
    limpidgreen345
    Bull effing shit. It has everything to do with the temperature and humidity at a given altitude and nothing to do with anything else. There's numerous shots from WWII of fighters and bombers leaving contrails that are precisely what nit-wits on the internet have called "chemtrails" since the late 1990s.
    Thefallofman
    There's a good documentary called Why In the World are they Spraying? that will enlighten the naysayers on here. Dave is nuts but he's right on this one.
    Mustaine1940
    all documentaries get riducled and shutdown because they all try to prove a point and some try to prove conspiracies theres a reason for conspiracies because they cant be fully proven, but theyre out there for the world to see, everyones calling dave stupid theres millions that believe this theory
    Crimson.King
    I remember when California was sprayed for "Mediterranean Fruit Flies" in the mid 70's. Every morning the helicopters would fly over and dump chemicals on us. I think this was actually time delayed chemical warfare as I have no other explanation why Californian Dave Mustaine is coming so unglued or why Arnold Schwarzenegger was elected Governator in 2003.
    SlackusMaximus
    Chemtrails are real...I don't know what they're spraying or why but they ARE spraying something....its funny that people can't accept the fact that military and governments perform research and do things that they don't tell the masses about. If this was the 40's and Dave said "the government has a secret city and they're making a bomb that could destroy an entire city" you people would laugh.
    limpidgreen345
    The idea of a fission bomb was around well before the 1940s. They ARE spraing something based on what? Guys on the internet saying that contrails persist longer than they used to? Guys on the internet saying that there are higher levels of this or that?
    Kueller917
    I don't think anyone is denying that the government is doing things in secret or using the public as test subjects at least occasionally (at least I hope not). This is something that has happened several times throughout history so it can be assumed it is happening/will happen again. Thing is to say there's some widespread chemtrail conspiracy is just irrational. Many posts above has said why it would just be too massive of a project for little benefit. Also, don't assume just because people disagree it it's because they can't accept it. Sorry if it's more of a personal attack but I the argument used a lot in conspiracy posts and it's a pretty easy way to avoid rebuttal.
    SlackusMaximus
    You say its too massive of a project for little benefit but we don't even know what the project is so how can you say that? There's so much going on in the world right now...its crazy. I want to look into the future 20 years....I bet it'll look like some typical dystopian movie.
    limpidgreen345
    You're hysterical, dude... you have to prove chemtrails aren't a figment of the internet's imagination before Kueller917 has to explain what the project is.
    qrEE
    SlackusMaximus - How many bombs do you remember being dropped on our cities by our government, without our knowledge? The Bomb allusion is hilarious because the bomb was used ON JAPAN, NOT ON AMERICA. So you immediately proved your own case wrong. They never bombed Americans, they never sprayed Chemtrails on us either.
    SlackusMaximus
    What's hilarious is the point you think you're making. I said that to point out the fact that government does things in secret. The Manhattan Project being one of the most well known. I could give you plenty of examples of things the US government has done and has officially apologized for years later.
    soundsabbath
    As hard as i've tried and as much as i do like megadeth he's slowly ruining for me. In my head i find myeslf screaming just shut the **** up!
    demonhellcat
    Hey, this may not be music news but Dave's ramblings are fun to read. I agree with him on some of his rants, but this one is just too far out there. My Conspiracy Theory: UG is paying Dave for every controversial or asinine comment he publicly makes.
    DaFjory
    Subject matter for an updated version of Polaris? ... "I spread disease like a dog / Discharge my payload a mile high".
    Mind_Reader7
    I wonder if by the end of the year, he'll be schizophrenic, and blaming everyone and everything for every problem, because his other personality is the exact opposite of his current one. Maybe I shouldn't post intoxicated thoughts.
    Nwright14
    As a psychology student,I feel the need to clarify that Schizophrenia does not entail multiple personalities. You're most likely referring to Disassociative Identity Disorder.
    qrEE
    Sorry, but minor correction - it's "Dissociative Identity Disorder", not "Dissassociative".
    JohnnyCNote
    I'd be tempted to suggest acute bipolar disorder as a likely diagnosis, with a healthy dose of paranoid misperceptions and an overwhelming persecution complex to boot. He'd make a great case study for a doctoral thesis. He's a compendium of psychological disorders. Maybe the music has a schizophrenogenic effect on him. Anyway, I always liked clinical terminology . . .
    p56278
    Dave is right. Those are not normal contrails. I'm with Dave also against Obama, who is a marxist intent on turning the U.S. into a communist dictatorship.
    JelloCrust
    All these down votes. Has nobody heard of sarcasm? On the subject of Dave and Chemtrails. . . it's the same as the 9/11 conspiracy theories [correction: hypothesis (hypothesis is something postulated to be proven, theory is a hypothesis supported by scientific research). It would have taken the government making all the custodial workers at the WTC be silent about implanting bombs that would have most likely killed said employees (with no governmental employment) as well. Basically, these chemtrails would entail forcing a massive amount of people (more than any counrty can afford to silence through bribes, force, etc.) to be silent about something that is screwing them over. Thus Chemtrails are disprove without me even going into science, which I can if you like, but the author of the article already has, and I don't feel like doing that on a forum.
    rabidgoon
    Congratulations on being the biggest idiot on the comments section of this article.
    Mustaine1940
    ug needs to worry about his updates on the new megadeth album screw what he does with his personal life i come on here for updates on the music i can goto his blog for his social news
    Smegal
    He is right! Only an idiot would argue this because it would be giving him exactly what he wants, attention. Surely it is nothing to do with any form of fuel burning and jet engines... no.... it must be magical chemicals not even used in planes at all... yes... that is the ONLY logical conclusion... r-tard
    Mustaine1940
    in all honesty some of this stuff is actually belivable idk why its hard to believe and its not just mustaine people always just say its mustaine but he gets all this stuff from alex jones and they talk together and hangout, theyre conspiracists i suppose in their own manner, i know some of the things he says are idiotic and come out of nowhere but i find ones like this are believable
    qrEE
    "The main products of hydrocarbon fuel combustion are carbon dioxide and water vapour. At high altitudes this water vapour emerges into a cold environment, and the local increase in water vapour can raise the relative humidity of the air past saturation point. The vapour then condenses into tiny water droplets which freeze if the temperature is low enough. These millions of tiny water droplets and/or ice crystals form the contrails." It took me five seconds. I used Wikipedia. Next time, think. Just because your gut says "maybe" doesn't mean that your brain should.
    limpidgreen345
    It's not even a debatable point -- there are countless mysteries of all shapes and sizes in our world but contrails are NOT one of them. There is NOTHING about contrails that science didn't have solved long ago.
    Mustaine1940
    because the us government hasnt done worse thing to themseleves i just dont see why none of what conspiracists say is so hard to believe, i quote 9/11 if theres nothing fishy behind 9/11 shoot me know, again i quote the system has failed
    JelloCrust
    Do you have any idea how much money it would take to keep a conspiracy that these people suggest exist running? More than any government has. That is the answer.
    limpidgreen345
    No shit. It doesn't even pass the smell test. How many TENS of THOUSANDS of people would it take to pull this off, or most any other conspiracy for that matter? The federal government can't even pull off a two-bit burglary at Watergate and get away with it and we're expected to believe they cover up something like this? People watch way too many movies.
    JohnnyCNote
    Not only that, but contrails have been prevalent since the advent of aviation. If there were some sort of plot behind them, it's sure taking a long time to have an affect on anyone . . .
    Mustaine1940
    government doesnt really have much of a fund as obama keeps running the US into the ground 6 trillion spent and rising
    AsOneIStand
    Jesus ****in' Murphy, can we stop with the Dave Mustaine "news"? Why exactly do the writers of this site feel to make a story on everything Mustaine says?
    Sven123
    Dave, I'm such a fan of Megadeth but don't keep on talking like you are now cause I'm really getting sick of these ridiculous rants -_-
    Megadeth2011
    I thought he was talking about crop dusters when I read it... in which case he'd be right. Some of the chemicals spread by those guys shouldn't be spread that way.
    JohnnyCNote
    I'm glad they post this stuff. Ever since Weekly World News quit publishing their print edition I've been trying to find another source of insane "news". Only in this case, DM actually believes this stuff. It's good, if not mindless, entertainment . . .
    benjixoath
    what pisses me off is if your precious Dave Grohl said this you'd all be like OMG HE IS SOOOO RIGHT DAVE GORHL FOR PRESIDENT CHEMTRAILS TOTALLY EXIST get off the mustaine hate bandwagon he's a far superior musician to any of you and he's a smart guy just because his views are different doesn't make them automatically invalid
    qrEE
    I like Dave Grohl. I like Dave Mustaine. I like Megadeth's music WAY more than I like Dave Grohl's music (any of the bands he's played with). Stupid statements are stupid statements. Dave Mustaine has made nothing but stupid statements recently. If you can't realize this, then any point you'll make is "automatically invalid".
    Mustaine1940
    his points are only stupid if you follow trend and rip on them without any sence of research besides what you call common sense, it may be untrue but it wouldnt be hard to put things in jets to spray..... and its not just daves opinion theres alot of other conspiracists that believe in shit like this so dont just believe its only him because ug is agaisnt him
    theanimal2609
    its also not hard to fill a plane with sheep and drop them on the poulation of the world, KILLING US ALL! doesnt mean its happening though :s
    Logan_B
    Jesus christ there is so many ****ing retards in the world. Seriously? You conspiracy theorists are a disgrace to society. That is all.
    krakkrox
    As with any megadeth/dave mustaine related article theres only one thing to say no one can argue with: This IS the news!!
    Northernmight
    Oh **** me. There he goes again. I think he's handicapped. Honestly. I think something has really ****ed him up mentally, and now he accepts ANYTHING he is told. Someone really should tell him about Evolution and rationality. He might just embrace it.