Study: Heavy Metal Predicts Teenage Crime

A new study has found that the listening habits of 12 year olds is a reliable predictor of their teenage behaviour - and young rock fans are more likely to commit minor crimes.

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A new study has found that people who listen to rock, hip hop or electronic music by age 12 are more likely to commit minor crimes in their mid-teens.

Those who listened to jazz and classical at an early age were found to be more likely to behave as teenagers.

However, rock isn't the only one to blame. A link was also found between teenage crime and mainstream genres like R&B and trance.

A key thing to note is that genres like rock do not specifically cause delinquent behaviour. Rather, the study finds that early listening habits merely help predict later behaviour.

The researchers at Utrecht University in the Netherlands were so convinced by the study that they believe music is a better indicator of teenage behaviour than their behaviour as a pre-teen.

"We were stunned ourselves," Dr. Tom ter Bogt told the Toronto Star. "We checked it over and over again."

Boys were more likely than girls to commit minor crimes as a teenager, and were found to have a stronger preference for loud music.

Is is believed that teenagers who are at odds with their parents and teachers are inclined to engage in 'sensation seeking'. This may include listening to music or taking drugs.

In turn, they seek the company of others with similar interests and strive for status in this group by competing on their consumption of music, alcohol or drugs. Unfortunately, the status earned in these teenage groups is unable to serve the individual in later life.

Dr. Tom ter Bogt notes that the study focussed on a limited type of teenage behaviour, and did not consider serious adult criminal behaviour.

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    ItMightGetQuiet
    Those who listened to jazz and classical at an early age were found to be more likely to behave as teenagers. but more likely to become psychotic serial killers when they're adults
    iommi600
    'Pointless Study: Let's Blame Music Genres Randomly For Social Issues' Fixed that for ya, UG.
    My Last Words
    'Pointless Study: Let's Blame Music Genres Randomly For Social Issues' - iommi600, desktop philosopher No. THIS was the official conclusion.. "[a]dolescents with a strong early preference for music types that have been labeled as deviant (hip-hop, heavy metal, gothic, punk, and techno/hardhouse) were more engaged in minor delinquency in late adolescence " I sincerely hope you and the 50 other people see the difference.
    elcapitan1800
    You have to forgive him and the 50 others. You can't expect the subjects of an experiment to be able to fully comprehend said experiment... People, no one is saying that music is to blame! Unfortunately statistics can be manipulated to make pretty much whatever point you want, but their assertion that music preference can be a sign of problems to come does not surprise me at all. But it's a symptom, not a cause
    iommi600
    My mistake, I admit that I only read the headline (I usually give up on reading further when I'm on the smartphone for some reason). Now, having read the original article, I know that the study didn't mean to say that X or Y musical genre CAUSES kids to be criminals and etc, it just established a relation between young offenders and their musical tastes. I see their point, the only thing I'm failing to get is why parents should keep an eye on their kids just because they listen to a musical genre that is linked to misbehavior, like the article suggests. I would suggest to parents if your 12-year-old child listens to very, very noisy music, rebellious music, be aware of what kinds of friends he or she brings to the house. Keeping an eye on your children... isn't that page n.1 in parenting book? EDIT: thanks for the desktop philosopher thing, maybe one day I'll give a speech to my trash bin and My Computer, like the old greeks used to do? Anyway, this study is actually way simpler than I though it was, lol.
    crazysam23_Atax
    Except, here's the thing: the study really didn't prove anything. All it proved was that kids who listen to music commit minor crimes. Studies like this are always badly designed, which isn't really the fault of those running the studies as much as the fact that a study that seeks to examine something like this is inherently flawed. There's way too many variables to be considered when it comes to such a broad study.
    TunerAddict
    This is why you aren't a scientist. Their hypothesis isn't even that the music causes it, they actually point out that the music itself does not cause it, but is simply correlated with other behavior that causes delinquent behavior. Did you even read the article?
    crazysam23_Atax
    I did. But see, that's the issue. They made this study and included music as a variable. Then, they were like, "Oh, this is interesting". What would have been better to point out would have been the fact that things like "parental influence and discipline" can affect a teen's probability to commit a minor crime.
    nboyjn
    How bout "New study shows that many people confuse causation with correlation."?
    JMZ08
    Those who listen to gangsta rap are more likely to be involved in drive-by shootings and drug deals.
    damagednoob
    Now, now, kids. Repeat after me: "Correlation does not imply causation" The act of listening to metal doesn't make you a delinquent. There could be a common cause that makes you listen to metal and become a delinquent. In the article linked it says: I would suggest to parents if your 12-year-old child listens to very, very noisy music, rebellious music, be aware of what kinds of friends he or she brings to the house. Or you know, just do basic parenting regardless of what they listen to?
    UGtom
    The article discusses this point: "A key thing to note is that genres like rock do not specifically cause delinquent behaviour. Rather, the study finds that early listening habits merely help predict later behaviour."
    crazysam23_Atax
    Except the early listening habits merely help predict later behavior part is just wrong. Why? Because that can be more clearly explained by thing like bad parenting. If your kid is rebellious or undisciplined, it's probably because you never did the basic parenting.
    AcousticMetal99
    I agree that bad parenting is a more likely cause of committing crimes, but you just don't get it. The genre helps predict. Listening to a particular genre won't cause you to commit crimes, just like playing a video game won't cause you to murder. It's saying the two have correlation. That they generally go together. It doesn't say much more than that. It doesn't look at the causes.
    crazysam23_Atax
    No, it doesn't help predict. It doesn't predict anything. Until someone gives me actual proof, I'm going to continue holding to that statement.
    AcousticMetal99
    Oh, and what does help predict? Perhaps an existing criminal record? But then have already committed crimes so it's not predicting anything... Would being a member of a gang which is known to be violent convince you? Or are you simply trolling us?
    Bart123
    That's right. There's just a greater chance of also being/becoming delinquent when you happen to listen to metal. I'm glad there's at least a decent amount of people that actually understand the article. So maybe there's no such relation between heavy metal and stupidity.
    crazysam23_Atax
    Um...no, there's not. That's the problem with studies like this. They assume that music is something to be thrown into the mix, when it's not.
    AcousticMetal99
    It's looking at correlation. It's saying that those types of music tend to be listened to by criminals. They aren't "throwing music into the mix" - they're pulling it out and noting that the two appear to have some form of link.
    crazysam23_Atax
    "It's saying that those types of music tend to be listened to by criminals." Since most criminals listen to same music as you and I, I imagine, that statement is useless. That's like saying, "Criminals like pizza". Well, so do 99% of Westerners. /shrug
    AcousticMetal99
    Not really. I don't tend to listen to any rap or hip-hop, etc, if I can possibly avoid it. What do you want, for them to provide specific bands/musicians? And the whole "100% of people who drink water..." rubbish doesn't apply. That's clearly misunderstanding. There's absolutely no parallel. It's more like saying "criminals like these specific types of toppings on their pizza, or demand that the pizza is delivered within 20 minutes" kind of thing.
    dtmaiden
    We actually have someone who actually knows their statistics, fancy that!
    cyclonus
    In the UK, the rock crowd generally are rather peaceful compared to all the chavs who listen to RnB and Hip Hop and go out looking for trouble all the time they're on the streets
    ZILtoid_1991
    Same in Hungary, only exception is for (neo-nazi) skinheads. In the rock/metal scene here, the hardest durg is marihuana (which illegality is hilarious after you know it's effects), I never heard anything harder. But those more mainstream guys tends to use speed and simmilar synthetics. Also rock/metal people tends to attend more likely to higher education.
    TheLukeMaxfield
    So listening to popular genres of music make you more likely to commit crimes than listening to specialised genres. A larger number of people listen to those genres, so of course more crimes will be committed by that group. I don't understand how so many of these studies continue to be carried out.
    SOADplayer2
    No offence, but I don't think that's how studies like these work. I don't know for sure, but they probably look at PERCENTAGES from each group that commit crime rather than absolute numbers. To compare percentages is perfectly valid and I'm sure a study like this would have to have statistically significant results before making statements like this.
    sonofgkex
    Except for the fact that it does not take into consideration how your preferences were formed. For instance, most parents that would introduce their kids to classical music would probably be from demographics that are less prone to crime. That said, this is an interesting indicator. We should remember that correlation does not necessarily prove causation, but I think the article explained that pretty well.
    AcousticMetal99
    I think it more suggests (or should suggest) that the kind of people who commit minor crimes in their youth are likely to listen to those types of music. Not the other way around. That said, they appear to have spent time and money to just prove what common sense already knows - people in gangs, delinquents and suchlike like to rap, hip-hop etc. Not really amazing findings, but good evidence.
    SOADplayer2
    I never commented on causation, only that the evidence of a correlation must come from percentages and not absolute numbers.
    Molomono
    If you take a look at the article something becomes very apparent, and i hope people take note of this because it happens a lot in journalism. Read carefully, the report is a representation of musical interest and it's correlation with crime. (the first paragraph) At no point does the study indicate a cause for the statistics, no conclusions are drawn on why crime is present, only that their is a direct relation between early musical interest and later petty crime rates. The person writing the article drew a conclusion regarding the statistics that have been published, and that's what we are disagreeing with. My point is the so called "statement" you are talking about is made by someone who drew a conclusion regarding the results of the study, this person was biased and drew a conclusion based on their own beliefs rather than actual logic's. For he/she portrayed rock/rnb/trance as in the wrong when people choose music that reflects their personality rather than being influenced by music into becoming who they are on a social level.
    SOADplayer2
    The statement I was referring to was that there was a correlation (although never explicitly said in the article). The study must have brought up statistically significant results for the correlation to be true. I do see your point, and the article does actually say "rock isn't the only one to blame". So I see your point that the article shown here seems to assume some causality, but my point was that the study will have to have enough evidence to show a correlation. I hope that was clear.
    Pan-Tallica
    Anyone who is confused or has comments about the study design can read the full paper here: http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/co... html I notice a lot of people are criticizing the findings - but to be fair, UG's summary is very short and links to an article which discusses the study as if it has found a CAUSAL LINK. It has not found such a link, nor did it attempt to. (I'm posting this as a reply to the first comment because I think it's important that people know the full paper is available online)
    crazysam23_Atax
    Ok, I'm glad you mentioned that about the casual link. Makes the study sound a whole lot more respectable.
    M.V.
    We all know what happen if someone listens to one direction in teen-ages.
    Zaqq
    "rock, hip hop or electronic music" Basically the genres 99% of teens listen to. News title is misleading, btw.
    elcapitan1800
    If anything, the study should have said "teenagers who listen to classical and jazz music are less likely to commit crimes" and left their conclusion at that. And then you would need to look at the average demographic of teenagers who listen to classical and jazz. Really doesn't say much if you ask me
    Dude475
    I didn't read anything that had to do with metal... Except for the title.
    6-String_Madman
    I beg to disagree. Though there was no direct mention of the genre, paragraph no. 7 indirectly mentions it. Metal always wins the loudness war.. It is meant to be loud. \m/
    JohnVanOevelen
    I'm 23 years old and I've killed like a thousand ants while listening to Links 2 3 4 - Rammstein... I'm dangerous bitches, watch out!!