Trevor Dunn: Billie Joe Armstrong Is Justin Bieber

"There's nothing worse than some rock'n'roll brat", wrote the Melvins bassist who also called him a little weasel for his recent on-stage meltdown.

Trevor Dunn: Billie Joe Armstrong Is Justin Bieber
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Melvins bass player Trevor Dunn has criticised Billie Joe Armstrong for his recent on-stage meltdown. "There's nothing worse then [sic] some rock'n'roll brat throwing a tantrum and going AWOL just because he can't keep himself occupied", wrote Dunn on Spin. "Yes, I'm referring to that little weasel in Green Day. That guy's main problem is that he doesn't realize that he is Justin Bieber. He should take some of the green in his wallet, buy himself a green smoothie and relax. "What kind of band name is Green Day anyway? Is that in reference to all the chord progressions they continually recycle?" Armstrong's outburst at the iHeartRadio festival was prompted by their set being cut short, but led to the frontman checking into rehab. It has since been revealed that he was "drinking a lot" before his breakdown. Other musicians have been more supportive. Alanis Morissette covered "Basket Case" at a recent concert, and told Billboard that he deserves more respect for his contribution to music: "I've always been an advocate and supporter of artists and Billie Joe to me - he deserves to be bowed down to", she said. "He's been in this industry for a long time and so for him to experience the consequence of a system that kind of set it up for him to fail is a travesty to me". Somewhere between these two contrasting opinions was Velvet Revolver drummer Matt Sorum, who initially said Armstrong's rant was "the most punk rock thing he has ever done", but added, "then he had to go and ruin it by apologizing. Corporate Rock is alive and well. Never really bought that band anyway". What do you think of the Armstrong drama? Share your view in the comments.

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    one-dead-cop
    Avoid these kind of situations and don't play festivals with people like Usher.
    mystix616
    bands play places were they get money. so sometimes its unavoildable. do you think good bands like the play icp's gathering? i dont think so but the money they get is what they care about. so festivals with usher have more money then festivals like mayhemfest.
    Danjo's Guitar
    I can't seem to recall the last time Justin Beiber publicly criticized concert organizers for cutting his set short, smashed a guitar, and then stormed off..... Or even the last time he said ****.
    Danjo's Guitar
    I though we could say f*ck now! What is this? Is it only in certain sections?
    Camron62\m/
    i'm just as confused about it as you are
    TombOfHorror
    Sometimes the f-bomb is censored, sometimes its not. Weird. I saw at least 10 intact f-bombs yesterday in the comments section, but when I used one it turned into ****.
    one-dead-cop
    **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** ****
    TheLastWord
    The Melvins were the band that inspired Nirvana
    gerrywm
    Yep with the jesus lizard, Dinasaur Jr meat puppets etc all great bands
    Slaytan666
    Yeah, Kurt even wore a Melvins shirt when Nirvana played on SNL. Although all I could think of when I read the title was "NUMBER TWO PENCIL.." I love that song.
    deadlydictator
    Id break down too if i had to play along side lil wayne. Id ****in dive head first off the stage.
    captainperoxide
    I'm sorry, Trevor Dunn...who are you?
    N-D
    Trevor Dunn is just amazing bassist, double bassist and composer, played in lots of rock, jazz and avant-garde bands such as: Mr. Bungle, Fantomas, Melvins, Tomahawk, Trevor Dunn's Trio-Convulsant and more, also known for playing with such musicians like Mike Patton and John Zorn.
    explosionate
    I second your comment. Forget about Greenday. If you haven't heard of the bands listed above, i would go to youtube now and do some sampling. Mr. Bungle's "California" is a good start.
    DoubleBassCrash
    You'd have to be into Mr. Bungle & Fantomas to know who he is. Dunn is an incredibly talent & underrated bassist. Can't wait to hear him on the New Tomahawk Record!
    Alcofuel
    It doesn't matter whether you know who he is or not. His point is still valid. Pretending it isn't just because he isn't as popular as anyone in Green Day is completely illogical.
    AcousticMetal99
    His point isn't necessarily valid. He has a right to his opinion, as much as anyone else, regardless of their fame. But it doesn't make him valid, or correct - it's still just his opinion.
    Alcofuel
    Opinions can be valid and they can be invalid. His claims are valid because there is evidence to support them. An opinion such as "electronic isn't real music" is invalid, because it contradicts the fact it is music by definition. I know that no one brought the latter up, but I needed a common example.
    AcousticMetal99
    And which of his comments is actually valid, would you say? Something like "he is Justin Bieber" is hardly valid - he doesn't explain it whatsoever. In what way is he like him? And in what way is he JB?
    Alcofuel
    The fact that Green Day is pretty much the "Bieber" of rock. Saying he "is" Bieber is merely saying that.Green Day is just as much of a corporate marketing tool as Biber, whether they realize it or not.
    AcousticMetal99
    That's your interpretation. He never explains it himself. And what's wrong with marketing? What's so bad about a band actually making money? Everyone wants to make money, and Green Day wouldn't be making money if no one was listening to their music. Okay, so it's hardly punk these days. And? Besides, they can still play their own music and sing better than JB.
    Meekrob3
    I'm sorry, but there probably wouldn't be a Green Day without The Melvins. Who are you?
    Johnny_Ibanez
    He didn't ask who The Melvins were. He asked who Trevor Dunn was. Fair question considering he's only been a session member since 2005. I know The Melvins but I've never heard of this guy.
    dannydesktop
    So in other words something can only have validity when spoken from the mouth of someone well known? Fuck this site and it's hero worship...
    wembly
    So, in other words, you're finished with a website, so you'd thought you'd tell us all?
    Shaggy91
    Notice How King Buzzo doesn't say anything...this dude is pretty new, and is the only non original member of the melvins
    Absurder22
    Dude are you kidding? Buzzo talks shit about a lot of people. Fuckin love that guy.
    Dynamight
    Well now I know who to kill first if I ever get a time machine.
    Superguitar
    How have you all never heard of this guy? Him and Mike Patton formed Mr. Bungle in 86'! I don't support his opinion on Billie Joe, but implying that he's unknown is just...wat.
    dannydesktop
    Yeah, is he known compared to Billie joe? Virtually no, but on his own threw his different projects this guy has impacted many bands and his opinion is just as valid as anyone elses, i doubt the rest of the Melvins Disagree. I completely agree and lol @ the irony in Billie Joe's rant...
    HardAttack
    Kill Trevor Dunn first? Glad you've got your priorities straight. Hitler can wait, right?
    Dynamight
    Good point. I'd kill Hitler first, if only to spare myself the annoyance of people bringing him up every chance they get.
    Punkhuskie6
    How could you possibly say that? They both came into the scene at the same time in two different genres.
    clarencetexiera
    All thats in here is a bunch of Green Day butt hurts who know that there front man was demeaned by someone who's knows what they're talking about. They do recycle all of their chord progressions, they are one of the biggest sell out punk bands and their music really isn't all that good, I liked it when I was like 13 but seriously they're in their late 30's, isn't it time to take off the eye make-up and try making music that isn't "radio friendly" out the ass?
    hotdogs585
    Not to mention the riff from "American Idiot" was stolen from Dillenger Four's "Doublewhiskeycokenoice"
    iommi600
    He's a bassist, therefore no one cares.
    iommi600
    4 downvotes already hahaha, I'm joking people.
    Fender4Ever
    We know you are joking, but it still makes us bassists sad :'(
    iommi600
    Come on, don't be sad. We all know that a band turns into musical chaos without a bassist.
    sideslick
    There are more bassists on UG than I thought... Kidding! I still liked the comment, and I wish I could like it again. I play both! It's pretty much a tradition in rock bands to haze the bassist. Why stop now? I went through it when I played bass in a band, and I dished it out when I played guitar. It's just a fact of life. Vocalists and guitarists get the most glory, followed by drummers, then bassists. That's how it's worked as I've observed, with rare exceptions. At least bassists aren't as low on the totem pole as keyboardists!
    Metalxorxdie
    not unless of course you can play the bass like say Stu Hamm, Wictor Wooten, etc....but nah I do understand what you mean, but of course alot of people dont understand the importance of bass
    qrEE
    Sometimes when my bassist talks to me, I say "What? I can't hear you?" And he goes "Ya, I know, I'm the bassist". Ironically enough, he's actually very well audible in our band, and we love making fun of the cliche bassist jokes.
    Diony x
    iommi600 youve been lately gone many times to minus with your comments. Focus man!
    KISSmyass666
    Thats a kick to my nuts man. square in the nuts. A Bassist is one of the most important people in a band. duka dur.
    Sammy Mantis
    He's an amazing bass player that played/plays in the legendary bands Br. Bungle and The Melvins as well as many other bands. BJ Armstrong isn't worthy of wiping this man's ass. Something I would expect the little kids at UG to know nothing about, and I see I'm correct.
    AcousticMetal99
    Sorry, but he hardly counts as legendary if the younger generations haven't heard of him? He may be very talented and have done a lot of work (personally, I don't know, having never heard of him of any of the aforementioned bands he's been in), but that doesn't make his opinion right.
    Sammy Mantis
    I'm sorry too, because anyone worth their salt has at least heard of Mr. Bungle and The Melvins, even if you don't know their music. The younger generations should probably get acquainted with these bands, since a lot of the bands the listen to would probably cite them as an influence. They aren't radio rock, but they are certainly legendary in their own right to those of us in the know.
    AcousticMetal99
    To those of you in the know? Anyone can be famous to those of you in the know?! And if you want to look back at what influenced what, we could probably go back even further to whoever influenced them... And I doubt they influenced the sorts of music I generally listen to. Also, just because they were reasonably well-known once, doesn't mean they are still popular, or that they play the sort of music more modern generations listen to, regardless of who they "influenced".
    Sammy Mantis
    I never said he was famous, I'm saying that these bands are still highly revered even today and both maintain extremely dedicated cult followings. Hence me saying he is legendary for those "in the know". Of course given his level of talent, Trevor Dunn should be more famous, but as we know talent does equal fame.
    Jamie_W
    Always a dodgy way to criticise someone, all you do is expose your own ignorance.