World's First Heavy Metal Degree Dubbed 'A Waste of Time'

Campaigners have slammed a UK college degree which offers a two year course in writing and performing heavy metal. Does rock have a place in modern education?

World's First Heavy Metal Degree Dubbed 'A Waste of Time'
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The world's first college degree in heavy metal has been revealed in the UK, but campaigners have dubbed it "a waste of time." The two-year course at New College in Nottingham is the first of its kind, and offers opportunities to work in bands, write and perform songs, and explore music theory and marketing. Student require previous college grades to qualify for the course. Liam Maloy spent seven months developing the course and defends its educational qualities. "It's a degree, so it will be academically rigorous," he told the BBC. "In the past, heavy metal has not been taken seriously and is seen as lacking academic credibility when compared with other genres such as jazz and classical music. But that's just a cultural construction." But education campaigners have criticised the course. Chris McGovern, chairman of the Campaign for Real Education, said: "There are too many degrees being offered that lack credibility in the marketplace. I suspect that may be the case with this course, unless you want to be a heavy metal star, in which case why would you need a degree in the subject?" He continued: "It might seem an attractive, easy option to some people. But you don't need to do a degree in heavy metal. It's a waste of time." What do you think? Do musicians benefit from a degree in heavy metal, or would they do better to focus their efforts on doing the same activities in their local music community? Let us know what you think in the comments.

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    TheGuitarGuyBr
    Let people do what they like. What really is a weaste of time is spending your whole life criticising everything other people do.
    !..!_Rock_!..!
    You mean like how you just criticized people for criticizing other people?
    sloppyjoe24
    "You mean like how you just criticized people for criticizing other people?" I can't stand comments like this.
    nboyjn
    Stop criticizing "!..!_Rock_!..!" for criticizing "TheGuitarGuyBr" for criticizing people who criticize other people.
    diddyman99
    A degree in heavy metal is in my opinion ridiculous. If education is intended to make you employable or teach you skills ,I like to think education serves this latter purpose, I don't see the point of this degree.
    fleaonnj4
    You do realise that not all University degrees are inherently designed to be vocational right?
    Igamikun
    Agreed, but one thing I wait for if this class picks up is when some guy barely scrapes by and gets the degree, and is still a crappy musician but flaunts his degree to people like he's somebody special.
    ZOSO <(")
    A waste of time is when someone spends thousands of dollar, and years of their life in college studying something that they'll never use in they're life, all because 'You're supposed to go to college'.
    l0ld4v3
    That'd be a waste of brain. How can you study something for 4+ years and never use it in you life? Everything is useful if you know how to be resourceful.
    CHKNLPZ
    Cool idea but the amount of money you have to pour into a metal band to get the ball rolling these days is enough without having student debt to worry about as well! Having a piece of paper saying you're qualified is not going to make your band automatically successful
    peachesenregali
    Crazy. "There are too many degrees being offered that lack credibility in the marketplace. I suspect that may be the case with this course, unless you want to be a heavy metal star, in which case why would you need a degree in the subject?" Everything about that statement makes great sense.
    Mephaphil
    Some people don't realise that not everyone goes to University to get a job out of it. Some people don't know what to do and instead of doing something that bores the shit out of them they decide to do something fun for them, see where it goes and make other decisions in the future based on their then goals and desires, and that's a good ethos to have. Having a desire to be educated and to focus on the knowledge you can attain is a great attitude to have. You don't need to know what you want to do, you can always go back to Uni, college whatever at any time. Lots of people settle for something they hate or end up in a dead end job because they never follow their goals. Just make sure you follow them up and you'll get where you want to be.
    scarabs
    if someone wants to follow their dreams and be in a metal band, they should go and be in metal a band, not spend tens of thousands of pounds on a bloody degree in heavy metal.
    l0ld4v3
    Spending those pounds to a be a "metal scholar" (you know, for those of us that actually like to study musical trends) seems more understandable than doing it in order to obtain the metal glory.
    Kueller917
    Your live shouldn't be based around finding work, yes. But it also shouldn't be based around expensive schools for knowledge you could find elsewhere. Knowledge is never pointless but sometimes degrees can be. As someone mentioned, the real experience of being in a metal band is probably easier and more beneficial.
    IVOSPAZOUT
    Sounds like a pretty cool idea. Might actually improve the quality of the music being produced in the industry, given time.
    RadioTape
    Name 10 big acts that have come from doing music degrees, where the degree has benefited them other than finding people.
    TJWhonley
    Dream theater. And Tool. probably some of the most musically talented bands out there.
    RadioTape
    Yeah, but what I am getting at is that the degree doesn't necessarily help them other than finding each other. I mean even Dream Theater left to pursue the band and didn't finish the degree right?
    TJWhonley
    I hear what you're saying, bu if these bands are some of the musically complex, there is a correlation there.
    Fendergod666
    I can give you three off the top of my head: Dream Theater, Judas Priest,and Iced Earth.
    SniperWolf80mm
    many metal musicians have graduated from various schools. nightwish, for example: their keyboardist/song writer and singer are music grads. as well as falconer and adagio
    l0ld4v3
    Groundation met up in a music academy. What's a "big act" though?
    Habsman102
    Although he usually doesn't perform on his own, Chris Broderick has a degree in classical guitar from the University of Denver.
    xxdarrenxx
    You have a flawed argument in my opinion. Someone who is in a band, wants to be successful and devotes his time to music gets at a point where he goes to college. Most likely if he got his mind set on music, chances are very high he'd go to music school. The talent/motivation/hard work came before the college, and after it. You can see it in the Alumni of Berklee for example, Dream Theater member and John Mayer dropped out soon, so they really didn't technically get their degree. It does show that they were set on music anyways.
    Powersurge213
    For all intents and purposes its a music performance degree specialising in Heavy Metal. Saying this degree is a waste of time is pretty much saying all music performance degrees are a waste of time.
    Tonganation
    I was just thinking this. Can a degree in jazz or classical music really be said to have more credibility in the marketplace? I suppose it depends on what you want to do as far as a music career, but the degree should teach you all the same skills these other performance degrees would if it's meant to be academically rigorous. I suppose thinking this degree is a waste of time comes back to the fact that genres like jazz and classical are seen today as serious areas of study while heavy metal is not.
    TJWhonley
    Exactly. Norah jones has a music performance degree in jazz piano, and she turned out just fine.
    ThatZachGuy
    A lot of people, society and even colleges themselves included, believe that college is all about getting a degree that you can flash like a membership card and get a job. I think this is a testament to what it's REALLY about: learning. I don't know about you guys, but I think knowledge is, in fact, power. Fuck the almighty "degree," I want to know more than I did yesterday.
    l0ld4v3
    Degrees are important though. Does a student of medicine knows as much as a licensed physician? I wouldn't be studying a masters degree today if a I didn't earned my licentiate degree before. Then again, I don't live in the states, I live in the 3rd world, where having a degree is actually something special (only about 15% of the society as a whole can obtain that kind of higher education) Degrees are not just a testament of learning, but also of actually doing, doing scientific research, doing professional activities that defines your career as such. It won't get you a job, it'll give you the tools to perform professional activities, finding a suitable job has more to do with social networking and overall economic, politic and social structures and policies inherent to the specific society in which you are living.
    ThatZachGuy
    I'm certainly not saying I disagree with you, but my point was that that piece of paper and title of "graduate" are just that: a piece of paper and title. Yes, they signify that you're educated, but they mean absolutely nothing in themselves. Your education does. People here in the US don't often give a shit about actually learning. They just want a piece of paper that makes other people give them money.
    Zan595
    The degree is merely a piece of paper that says "I know how to do ____". I've been to great doctors and awful doctors, both had degrees. In the end, it doesn't come down to if you have the piece of paper or not, it's still what you actually know.